1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Joelinton- how long?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Jun 28, 2020.

  1. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    73,874
    Likes Received:
    39,930
    So how long should we give him to star doing his job?

    Some say 12 months... but that’s nearly up... some say 2 years.


    I just hope his package was linked heavily to goals scored.

    personally I’d give him half a season more now then bench him.

    if you have a builder who you employ to lay 1000 pricks a day and he only does 250 then at some point you want to get someone in who can do the job surely....
     
    #1
  2. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    34,890
    Likes Received:
    23,775
    As your are comparing him to a builder then are you just saying he's a lazy ****? Surely if the builder build the wall doesn't matter so long as it stays up?
     
    #2
  3. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    73,874
    Likes Received:
    39,930
    builders have different abilities. Some are **** and slow and some are decent and fast.
     
    #3
  4. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    34,890
    Likes Received:
    23,775
    Hare and the tortoise
     
    #4
  5. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    14,080
    Likes Received:
    12,020
    As it's under 12 months, I'd ask for money back under trading standards. Failing that, give him as long as the takeover takes.
     
    #5
  6. RobEllious

    RobEllious Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2011
    Messages:
    3,062
    Likes Received:
    1,759
    He'll be better next season, especially if we play him with another, actual, striker in some games.
    He isn't worth 40m obviously but if he gets some confidence and shoots more on instinct instead of overthinking he'll be okay.

    In fairness to him the price tag at a club like this was heavy pressure for a young lad with an obscure career so far. The more it's forgotten the better he'll play. Give him another season at least.
     
    #6

  7. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    he's a winger
     
    #7
  8. JulioGeordio90

    JulioGeordio90 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2018
    Messages:
    394
    Likes Received:
    341
    I think we can all agree that he isn't worth the money spent. However, we're not changing that now.

    He strikes me more as a guy who should be playing out wide and competing with ASM, Almiron etc.

    A front four of the below looks good

    ASM New Striker Joelinton
    Almiron
     
    #8
  9. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    18 months I'd normally say. Solano never truly came good until 18 months in. But in fairness to Nobby he had shown the odd bit, and technically there were a couple of moments when he showed his class. I've seen nothing in Joelinton. I think we might as well accept we are going to see the biggest loss made for a while. I just can't see him ever representing anything like 20m nevermind 40m. He doesn't even look like a footballer. His technical level is shocking to be honest. That's not all down to confidence. Bottom line is Hoff have done us better than we did Spurs with Sissoko.
     
    #9
  10. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    30,072
    Likes Received:
    25,386
    1 month after takeover sanctioned.

    Anyway it’s not comparing brickie to brickie. True comparison is chippy to brickie.
     
    #10
    Albert's Chip Shop likes this.
  11. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2016
    Messages:
    13,352
    Likes Received:
    8,834
    Give him more time, he's getting good.

    Anyone who saw that Pele esque goal in the friendly against Boro will agree.

    He looked good against Sheff U too, not great against Villa, but I predict a masterclass vs Citeh.
     
    #11
  12. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    21,241
    Likes Received:
    13,740
    He's a young lad who has been put in a ridiculous position by the club. You can't blame him for his price tag or the fact he has been asked to lead the line alone. When/if the takeover happens then get in a couple of quality strikers so that the pressure is taken off him and see if he can develop. The £40 million is gone now and nobody is going to buy him. All we can hope is that he develops into an asset for the club given time. With a bit of luck that £40 million will soon be seen as insignificant anyway and we can thank our lucky stars that this transfer will just be a blip rather than crippling our transfer funds like it will do if the takeover fails.
     
    #12
  13. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    28,797
    Likes Received:
    27,789
    He's improving. Playing without a crowd has relaxed him and he's showing the talent that probably attracted us in the first place.

    If he had more creative tactics around him he'd probably score, as proven by us playing more attacking football and him finally scoring.

    I'd give him another year, we won't sell him anyway.
     
    #13
  14. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    the I think the system change helped before lockdown he was looking better .
     
    #14
  15. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    28,797
    Likes Received:
    27,789
    Yeah, the change has helped, a few extra weeks in training, now playing without a crowd. Its all aiding in his development.
     
    #15
    Munson. likes this.
  16. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    I like him .. feel sorry for him tbh.. he does good things out on the wing... his best game was the Everton home game imo when he played put wide
     
    #16
  17. RobEllious

    RobEllious Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2011
    Messages:
    3,062
    Likes Received:
    1,759
    Aye his link up play went from good, to ****e, to extremely good again.

    To me Brucie has ****ed up a little here keeping him out and out striker in a defensive team.

    He will score more without the burden of CF position despite probably getting less chances and will be able to contribute more to the build up.

    He isn't Rondon but he's an alternative to Perez.
     
    #17
    GeordieHalfbreed likes this.
  18. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2016
    Messages:
    13,352
    Likes Received:
    8,834
    So we looked a **** ton better yesterday when Joelinton came on, and he had plenty of nice touches and did more than Carroll. With Gayle ****ing up that great chance, and Carroll doing **** all apart from trying to hospitalise Laporte, Joelinton was our best striker.

    Start him again next game and get Shelvs in again and we won be as ****.
     
    #18
    GeordieHalfbreed likes this.
  19. G4rdToonArmy

    G4rdToonArmy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    7,947
    Likes Received:
    5,155
    I would say we actually play him in his position (Right Inside Forward) and then judge him.

    Or we give him time to adjust to the new role. Playing CF currently for NUFC is a thankless task, no one around you, no support especially when it is not your natural role - can't tell me he looks like a natural striker, the chance he was through 1 on 1 and tripped over his own feet shows he's not comfortable in that position.
     
    #19
    GeordieHalfbreed likes this.
  20. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    I think our best bet is to get him loaned out to Germany next season in the hope he does well, and then we get about 15m back. I think that would be great business in the circumstances. I hate myself for not being patient as I always say you should be, but its his ****ing technique. Its horrible.
     
    #20

Share This Page