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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Apr 20, 2020.

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  1. pompeymeowth

    pompeymeowth Prepare for trouble x
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    Then you wake up in a cellar, with a crude drawing of a cowboy on the wall....
     
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  3. Archers Road

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    You’re asking for a sensible answer to a complex question, on here? Good luck with that.

    Most of the black people I know rarely if ever complain about racism; but if pushed to do so, they can all give you plenty of examples of how it has affected them. Just have a read through this thread, and all the others on this site ffs. We shouldn’t still be talking about this **** in 2020, but we are.

    Just because there are black faces on the BBC doesn’t mean racism has been eradicated; look at the frenzy the mere existence of those faces has in half the ***** spanners posting on here ffs.
     
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  4. Archers Road

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    Simplistic nonsense. Of course you can sack anyone if you can prove they aren’t doing their job. Some black people will play the race card, but so what? Just make sure you have a strong case. Some Irish people will claim they are being oppressed. You can still sack them if they’re useless.



    You’re fired <ok>
     
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  5. Toby

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53186611

    Ambitious plans for the Royal Navy's two new aircraft carriers - each of which cost more than £3bn - will not be met without proper funding, the government spending watchdog has said.

    The National Audit Office highlighted concerns over missing key elements such as aircraft and support ships.

    FFS <laugh>
     
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  6. EDGE.

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    Thanks for the reply, Archy.

    100% with you that individual black people have been and still are discriminated against in the UK by other individuals who might be white, Asian and even other blacks (read an article a few years ago saying African blacks are prejudiced towards blacks of Caribbean heritage). Most people will agree that discrimination of any kind is wrong and should be called out whenever it shows its face.

    The question I asked remains unanswered though, where is the systematic racism that stops black people realising their hopes and aspirations?

    Systematic racism suggests that 'the system' discriminates against the BAME community. I know individuals will be racist, these individuals may be employed in positions of power but 'the system', as far as I can tell, does not discriminate against BAME as they are well represented in public office and media and indeed are well catered for judging by the amount of BAME people who continue to migrate to this country for a better life.

    If life was so bad for blacks, that racism was endemic, then surely this would be well known and tangible that the migrants would stay on mainland Europe.

    Examples of perceived racist countries are common on mainland Europe and most of these migrants are travelling through these countries to get to the UK, particularly in Eastern Europe.

    I would again state the case that the UK has made great strides from the 70s to tackle racism and inequality within our society and those still agitating for further action risk starting or accelerating a race/culture war that would turn our country into a USA-lite despite our countries different attitudes and history towards blacks.


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    It’s probably fair to say that the UK is one of the least racist countries in the world. That said, racism still exists and seems to making a comeback pretty much everywhere.

    America has it’s own unique problems. The scars of slavery clearly still haven’t healed in some States, and it doesn’t help having a President who is willing to reopen old wounds if he thinks it’ll benefit him.

    There are a lot of angry and frustrated people around at the moment, and all that is only going to get worse; race is just one of many things people will probably end up fighting about in the years to come.
     
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  8. Ciaran

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...academic-tweeted-White-Lives-Dont-Matter.html

    The University of Cambridge has spoken out in support of one of its lecturers who was hit by a wave of abusive messages and death threats for tweeting 'White Lives Don't Matter'.
    Dr Priyamvada Gopal, 51, who teaches in the Faculty of English at Churchill College, took to the social media platform on Tuesday evening to write: 'I'll say it again. White Lives Don't Matter. As white lives.'

    Any chance someone could explain how this is ok but the twat who flew the White Lives Matter - Burnley gets the sack?

    Seeing as she is a Professor of English if she had a valid point she could have done it using less inflammatory language.
     
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    Sadly, I think you might be right but it doesn't need to be the case.

    Simple solution is identity politicking should be rejected by all individuals. Then we are taking the first steps to restoring the equilibrium within our society.
    Respect individual liberty.
    Ban different races. There is only one race.

    Too serious for a Friday...

    FTP
     
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  11. Ciaran

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    If it's simplistic nonsense then you won't have a problem telling us where the systematic racism is.

    Vast majority of racism is towards whitey these last 5 years.
     
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    You can’t seriously believe that last sentence?

    As for where the racism is, I’ve been genuinely shocked by how much of it I’ve heard over the last few years. I thought it was pretty much dying out, but ffs, open your eyes and ears.
     
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    We are being pushed into having an opinion and people don't like being pushed.

    99% of the time most white British people are a tolerant bunch, we don't like to see people picked on and as a nation we are very generous. However we are not seeing the promotion of equality at this time, we are being shouted at by people demanding things. This isn't what 99% of white British people like. Ask for support, ask for help, ask for your opinion to be considered and generally you will be met with favourable responses. Britain is still one of the most tolerant countries in the world.

    Someone shouting in your face that they demand your respect, they demand that you apologise for something you have had no control over, demanding that your way of life has to change in order for their way of life to get better just pushes the 99% towards the stance of the 1% who are part of the hang them, flog them, send them back where they came from knuckle dragging brigade.

    There has been zero acknowledgement from anyone I've seen from the BLM, BAME communities that says they themselves have any role to play in their personal betterment. It is all and only the fault of white people. We are grouped together regardless of class and background because it is lazy and easy for the shouting people to do so. There is zero consideration for any historical abuse suffered by white people because whatever you say about poverty and oppression is always trumped by the "well you weren't slaves" argument.

    Simply put, for the simpletons, it just isn't Cricket, it is not the done thing. It is rude and impolite to shout at people and point fingers in their face. I have no respect for people who have no manners.
     
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    Pure bullshit made-up little Englander fantasy numbers. 'White British are amazing'. Get to ****.

    You accuse the BLM and BAME 'communities' of grouping whiteys together yet IN THE SAME ****ING SENTENCE you did the same thing. And you do it all the ****ing time. You thick-as-**** hypocritical waste of space.

    Just **** off.
     
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    Says it all #whitelivesdontmatter. Racist and the ****ing racist **** should be kicked out of job and country.

    Imagine someone pronouncing #blacklivesdontmatter, the ****ing uproar there would quite rightly be.

    Utter hypocrisy.

    What's the ***** endorsing BBC view on this one wonders?
     
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    Bit of a rant, that. A shouty rant, in fact.

    I’m not overly keen on being shouted at myself, by and large. Right now, it seems to be coming from all directions.

    Angry white people going apoplectic at the sight of Black protestors don’t tend to come across very well at all tbh.
     
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    A few days after 3 gay white men get butchered in a park following a BLM demonstration by a Muslim asylum seeker in the name of an openly homophobic ideology that encourages killing gays .
    Sadiq doesn't bring this up just bangs on about George Floyd a violent drug addict that died 4000 miles away in another country.
    Why bring up Floyd when talking about LGBT pride month ?
    White lives and gay lives clearly don't matter .""
     
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    You see what you want to see. No exclamation marks and nowhere other than in the use of acronyms did I refer to anyone black because I am equally fed up of white people walking up and down shouting on behalf of others.

    I have been known to "shouty rant" and no doubt will do so again in the future but this wasn't one of those times.

    I by no means want to come over as all passive aggressive but I switch off as soon as the finger waving in the air starts, when the fingers start pointing at me and when people who I don't know and don't know me start telling me all about myself.
     
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