Well you've spent copious amounts of time discussing the nature of the wording as if it's caused anyone offence. Maybe you're just interested in etymology, in which case I apologise.
The first response was from @Evil Jimmy Krankie concerning the footnote at the bottom of my OP. We've had a very polite and interesting discussion which you keep butting into. I never suggested people were offended. Once again your ludicrous agenda has you seeing what you want to see and, once again, you're wrong. What you're doing is pulling out one little aspect and making it your focus because that's what you do. When you're proved wrong you'll try again with another word or phrase. TBH you're just shyte at this and, sorry to say, as boring as can be.
The topic, as you've made it, is lying about me saying people were offended by 'nitty gritty'. You need to calm down, you're not making any sense tbh, you're just shouting hysterically.
Far from it! Just asking a question and wondering if you plan to respond. If you don't, just let me know.
Just a reminder of the thread topic, question remains. The African PL players are protesting about an American police officer killing an American. Why don't they protest when police from their own countries murder their countrymen?
What is the appropriate action Wilfred Ndidi should take during the event? Not kneel? Not show his solidarity with a noble aim of eliminating racism? Perhaps get a loudspeaker and also list a number of other causes that he believes are worthy at the same time? Or if he believes in the fight against racism, perhaps kneeling is entirely fine? But again, you tell us, what should he have done differently as everyone knelt? As for the Nigeria issues, it's classic whataboutery. The kneeling is about racism, you've just decided that since there are other problems in his home country, he can only discuss racism once he addresses them too. And you, can you only discuss the Dijon situation in France once you have talked about problems we have back home? Does it invalidate your thoughts on it? No, of course not, so why should Wilfred Ndidi or any other black player of foreign descent be told they can only be taken seriously in their anti-racism protests if they also address events back in their home country? Again, just wilful misinterpretation of the BLM message because it suits you to make facetious arguments that aren't based on reality. As for the American problem... First off George Floyd is one of a number of very high profile, caught on camera police shootings. This is what has highlighted how the police are conditioned to treat black people in America differently. It's not about the raw number, it's about how as a % of the population (13%) they are disproportionately the victims of police brutality and killings when they encounter police in any circumstance. Philando Castille had a busted tail light and got killed, George Floyd used a fake $20 note and died, Breonna Taylor was just asleep and died. If a black person has a weapon of any kind, the police shoot first and ask questions later. Meanwhile, Dylan Roof kills 9 black people in a methodist church and is taken in alive and given a Burger King when he's hungry. White people are treated differently by police in america and that is a fact: https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...gs-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men When you watch the video of George Floyd being killed, you see someone who does not care about the human being he is killing. I work in America, I have spent a lot of time there, I speak to American people every day and I employ them. Racism is a huge problem in the US and one of the most disturbing parts is the way it manifests itself in actions that disproportionately (but of course, entirely coincidentally) just happen to end in the deaths of black people more than white people. Sure, you can argue that Derek Chauvin wasn't doing it because he was black, but the police in America have these interactions so often, and protect their own so often (see Botham Jean and the way that played out, how the force tried to get his killer off with blatant murder) that whatever is motivating this guy, it is disproportionately killing black people more than it should. So yes, people see the way this racism has seeped into the most basic parts of life in America and it is fair to say that George Floyd would be more likely to be alive today if he was white. Just because he didn't scream racial epithets does not mean he treated that black man the way he should have been, and if you know anyone who has spent considerable time in America (there are two of us here on differing sides saying the same thing) then yes, racism is likely a subconscious factor in this.
Not a footballer but this young marathon silver medallist made a protest please log in to view this image and at huge risk to himself and his family who were imprisoned. He was fighting for his Oromo people as a statement the hands are shackled and it was a potent symbol of oppression against the government and people in power at that time.
sy @Kittenmittons - I'm a bit late joining our tag team Also he isn't a footballer btw and this pre-dates the PL BLM OK?
I didn't say he should do anything different* during the event, but he has plenty of time outside of it. Why does he protest about an American man but not his own countrymen ... ... in less than 1000 words if possible. *"That's fair enough, people are entitled to do whatever they choose in a society as free and liberal as ours."
For an awful lot of words I cannot believe you haven't delved into this more? Chauvin knew Floyd and worked with him at a restraunt/bar as security. Chauvin had 18 warnings of police conduct and a police colleague/trainer said he was itchy and overused pepper spray when proper policing would have defused the situation. Hopefully the truth will come out. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/derek-chauvin-what-we-know-trnd/index.html
So he could just be a useless cop and the killing wasn't racially motivated at all ... ... some people have decided it certainly was based, to some degree, on the colour of Chauvin's skin.
To be honest I hadn't realised Chauvin had been reprimanded for using 'a demeaning tone' .... ... Mrs Smug is looking directly at me, narrowing her eyes and nodding
"You've just decided that since there are other problems in his home country, he can only discuss racism once he addresses them too." I haven't decided that at all, I said he's free to do whatever he wants. You're seeing what your agenda drives you to. I said he's a hypocrite because he's protesting about the death of an American but doesn't protest about the deaths in his own country which are absolutely horrendous. Do you believe he shouldn't protest about the Nigerian police and would it only be worth the bother if the police were white? "The figures show 785 killed in just three months this year, while the true number of people killed by the police since 2000 may exceed 10,000." "Nigeria’s police force remains mired in deeply entrenched patterns of torture, corruption, murder, and other forms of human rights abuse. Torture remains a routine part of police interrogation and police officers have carried out numerous extrajudicial killings of suspects in their custody."
