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Off Topic A serious question about racism

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  1. Shameless

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    yes
     
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    Didn't you say we're not allowed to use blanket terms such as this?

    "I haven't even got to your use of the blanket term 'Africa' yet and your pejorative use of the continent word as a homogeneous place

    But hey your really nailing it here."
     
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    This thread is not about you ffs
     
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    That comment was about you, not me.

    You chose to make it about me when you told me off about saying 'Africa' ....

    ... now, apparently, it doesn't suit you to be reminded.

    That's too bad ....
     
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    Such as anyone
     
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    Well, as you mention it your comment about Africa was pejorative for the reason you copied and pasted above

    Ozzymac said stereotyping might be passed down because historical references and events. I agree that racism is also historicaI was wondering how that plays into our image of Africa
     
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    Do you know what pejorative means, I don't believe you do tbh.
     
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    No idea, I just like using fancy words to appear clever. I thought everyone here knew that <ok>
     
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    Any way -perhaps in a roundabout way, I am also asking where does racism come from?

    The media
    personal experiences
    stories anecdotes and opinions of those around us
    surely some racism is also historical ???
     
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    You're overthinking everything tbh, it's just endless.

    When we were kids, in a Durham pit village, we'd fight with kids off the next street.

    But if 'our end' of the village got any bother we'd join forces against the other end.

    If we got any bother from the next village we'd all join forces against them.

    At Durham Big Meeting there'd be friction between the miners, steel workers, ship builders.

    When we went to London, with Sunderland, it would be 'us' against the Cockneys.

    During the war it was 'Tommies' squabbling with the 'Jocks' but all together against the 'Krauts'.

    If we had an alien invasion we'd all unite against the little green bastards ....

    ... it's human nature, hasn't changed since Adam & Eve were at each others throats and never will.

    At the Salvation Army we believe in a policy of 'scones for all' no matter what race, creed or colour <laugh>
     
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    P.S. the scones are equal opportunity products.
     
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    So you are saying racism is inevitable?
     
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    Of course it is, everyone knows that if they're being honest..

    When borders change new conflicts spring up because it's human nature for many people.

    Arguing that there's a way to end it is just an entertainment for well meaning people on internet forums.

    Bashing away on forums makes people feel good because they can tell themselves they're fighting the good fight.

    Sorry to be blunt, but it's true.
     
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    Prejudice in some form is inevitable for the simple reason that we all have different life experiences.

    We are born without any prejudices, they are all learned.
     
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    Yes and its fair to recognise that racism/prejudice/negative stereotyping is not genetically coded

    We also have shared experiences which results in communities selecting values and perceived truth that result in shared beliefs, many of them gaining an enduring cultural acceptance -this is how we behave and this is what we think about this or that and beliefs reaffirmed through confirmation bias
     
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    So is there anything wrong with working collectively to reduce it? Surely this is not futile?
     
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    Even if it's just by the law of averages some of those beliefs will be true ...

    ... and people who disagree with them are wrong no matter how much they think they're right.
     
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    Nothing wrong with working collectively or individually.

    Yes, it's futile.
     
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    Not sure what you're saying/getting at here...am off to me bed.

    tbc
     
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    <laugh>

    It's obvious what I'm saying, couldn't be any clearer ....

    .... as clear as the true meaning of 'I'm off to bed'.

    And it'll be continued if I choose which, at this point, seems unnecessary ....

    ... you've never got to any real point and avoided any questions you can't answer like why you think the Colston statue should be taken down. As you're so sure it should be an easy answer, but instead you won't say just as you won't answer why you posted a photo of black slaves.

    You say you want debate but it's only on your terms.

    Best to leave it there tbh.
     
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