Public Health England has finally published its latest report into the impact of coronavirus on black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) communities. At the start of the month, it unveiled a review which found that BAME groups had a higher risk of deaths. The latest report, leaked at the weekend but now formally published, has tried to unpick some of the reasons for this. It pointed out its original report did not take into account occupation, which could have an impact on whether an individual is exposed to the virus, or pre-existing health conditions, which increase the risk of serious complications. But it also points out that there is evidence that “historic racism” and poorer experiences of healthcare may mean individuals in BAME groups are less likely to seek care when needed. It says the way coronavirus has been handled has left BAME groups angry, fearful and deeply dismayed. While it was unable to come to firm conclusions on the cause of the higher risk, it did say that ethnicity, racism and structural disadvantage must be taken more into account going forward. In particular, it wants to see better data collection, including ethnicity being reported on death certificates, culturally sensitive public health campaigns and risk assessments in the workplace. The above is from the BBC latest news feed on their website. I have several family members that have or still work in Healthcare and through them I have met and are friends with an awful lot of Healthcare professionals. In all that time, the ONLY thing Healthcare professionals are interested in is saving the person in front of them for death or serious illness. Bear in mind how many people of colour actually work in healthcare from the lowest roles to some of the best in the world. I honestly despair at this situation. And before anyone starts, I am not denying the history of racial inequality, but as I keep saying racism is not a one way street
So now the higher rate of deaths is being blamed partly on racism, wow racist germs, whatever next. Seriously though, racism is seemingly becoming the cause of every black issue. From experience, black and Asian people have an admirable tendency to have multiple generations living in the same home. Doesn't this have an effect? As the virus is spread by human contact, I'd have thought so. Over the last few weeks I've heard nothing about how black people can help themselves to become less victimised. It all seems to be about blaming white people, which isn't the way forward in my opinion.
This alludes to another related issue that someone on here mentioned earlier ...in that, racism and PC-speak is a language in itself. I cannae speak for everyone, but I'm sure many have been in company and said ...whatever, only to receive a lecture; "are you aware of the derivation of that term?" ...."if you knew black history, then you'd no doubt be be aware that ..." and "women have had to put up with these conditions for decades and be saying blah, blah, blah you are implying ...". And to top it all we're told ignorance is no excuse. It's the sort of thing that has the potential to entrench sides of the debate and polarise people. Unfortunately this can include some very reasonably minded people who decide they no longer want to listen. A while back I used the term half-caste in front of a group of people, one of them mixed race. There was an invisible oof! in the room and I knew the moment it fell out of my mouth I'd made a quite a big PC gaffe. The point is that these errors are all too easy to make and include LGBTQ, feminine causes, environmentalists and vegans and the rest I do hope people feel free to express themselves in general and no one should be put down for not knowing the current politically correct buzzwords, issues and the terms to avoid. This sort of thing can be a ****ing minefield.
It again goes back to relative poverty, black people (and I include Pakistani and Bangladeshis as well as Afro-Caribbeans) are statistically more likely to be poor, or be working in roles that place them at greater risk; as cleaners, care homes, nursing, driving buses, taxiing etc etc
Sorry but what's to stop them, the same as an anyone of any skin colour from breaking out from that cycle by hard work and dedication? My eldest son, works 50 hours a week for minimum wage to try and provide for his family, he receives no help and asks for none. That's just life and he knows that if he accepts its a bit **** now he will progress up the food chain. Is that because of his skin colour or because he accepts he has to start at the bottom and work his way up?
That's fine, many of them of course do and there are lots of more positive role models around than ever before as far as I am aware. There are football managers, doctors, headteachers, prominent MP's, judges and so on. There are also many Afro-Caribbeans in our institutions of higher learning. Of course many of them have aspirations and you and others are right in the sense that these opportunities are available for all. Qualified graduates seeking suitable employment are then disadvantaged https://www.theguardian.com/educati...graduates-earn-less-struggle-to-build-careers
It involves institutionalised racism because more black people are poor, therefore they are more vulnerable to risk
The study is meaningless unless it considers all aspects. "The study, by the Institute for Social and Economic Research at the University of Essex, finds that British ethnic minority graduates are between 5% and 15% less likely to be employed than their white British peers." My eldest son worked, graduated from Stafford Uni and couldn't get a job related to his degree ... ... so took a job selling wedding rings door to door. Do black graduates do this or do they wait for a job commensurate with their degree.
Black people aren't always poor because of racism though are they ... .... your post is a huge generalisation that isn't supported by facts.
Like many others of all backgrounds they get jobs of any sort as with almost any 21/22 year old's they are keen to leave home - the academic study informs us that one group of people are more likely to progress their career and another group are more likely to be driving buses or packing shelves Unless you know of another well-researched paper that informs us otherwise
Shameless ... Like many others of all backgrounds they get jobs of any sort as with almost any 21/22 year old's they are keen to leave home - the academic study informs us that one group of people are more likely to progress their career and another group are more likely to be driving buses or packing shelves Unless you know of another well-researched paper that informs us otherwise[/QUOTE] Is that more guesswork or do you have anything to back it up.
The research doesn't back up what you've claimed. Your claim is quite different to what the research has said.
I'm quite happy to continue this discussion in private seems as you have posted it 3 times I'm in no way embarrassed btw and I am more than willing to take this further -in private
You've avoided answering 3 times otherwise I'd have only had to ask once. You've posted it on the forum, so discuss it on the forum.
From the same source (Th Guardian) “Six months after graduation, ethnic minority graduates are on average significantly less likely to be employed than white British graduates,” Zwysen said. You do realise that academic papers cannot be published without formal peer review?
