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TC (Lovely Geezer) said:
Every race has that long history.
White European Christians were captured and sold as slaves throughout the entire Ottoman Empire - many ended up in North Africa.
It suits people like yourself to only recognise the more recent slave trade as it suits your agenda.
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Totally missing the point. The culture of black slavery has continued in the USA. Indeed it took 100 years after the 13th Amendment for a Civil Rights Law to be enacted to attempt to cure that.

So how did that work out for us?

Take a look:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/n...cer-posts-Jews-not-replace-chant-Twitter.html

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https://www.vox.com/2019/4/26/18517980/trump-unite-the-right-racism-defense-charlottesville

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/charlottesville-neo-nazis-vice-news-hbo

Thank you JonnyLosAngeles!
 
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JonnyLosAngeles said:
Sigh...

Please copy and past this response where you can see it every day, because I have written this independently of you and in response to you multiple times.

Any and all rioting, defacing and damage of property, injury and death of any innocent people regardless of their demographic is criminal behavior and should be punished to the full extent of the law. The black OAP who died and any police officer murdered is just as, if not even more, abhorrent.

Again, please copy and past this response where you can see it every day, because I have written this independently of you and in response to you multiple times.

Got it!?!?!?!

PS, don't worry, I won't ask or expect you to do the same regarding the alt right that you seem to favor. If I am mistaken as to your allegiance, then so be it.
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Yes you post it as a response, but you've never once mentioned it without being in some way asked, yet you post every day about George Floyd's rights, looters are naughty but but but but. Winnie Mandela killed a 14 year old but but but, excuses excuses excuses, no excuses Jonny.
 
lifecheshirewhite said:
Yes you post it as a response, but you've never once mentioned it without being in some way asked, yet you post every day about George Floyd's rights, looters are naughty but but but but. Winnie Mandela killed a 14 year old but but but, excuses excuses excuses, no excuses Jonny.
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Great! Call the police!

It seems to me, and maybe others, you aren't even content when someone gives you what you have asked for.

Frame your own narrative, I don't need you framing mine. Make your own points, don't twist mine. Again,paste this where you can see it every day - no excuses for looters, no excuses for Winnie Mandela and the murder of Stompie Moeketsi.

But hey, if it works for you, keep flogging the dead horse, just don't try it with the next black man you encounter, please!

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Whitejock said:
Very true. It was a helluva mess you made. But it's been cleaned up now. And you added another 5% to the next Indyref. Thanks for that. :D
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Still wont be enough 5% but i can only hope it happens. Then i can sit back and watch the entertainment of wee jimmys efforts to join the E. U.. One question though why do so many scots want to be indipendant yet don't live there.
 
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If i read this right where did these two people isolate for 14 days?. Seems New Zealand did not enforce their own rules.
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Image captionFile photo of travellers arriving at Auckland International Airport
New Zealand has confirmed two new cases of coronavirus, ending a 24-day streak of no new infections in the country.

Both women, who are from the same family, had travelled from the UK and were given special permission to attend the funeral of a parent.

Last week New Zealand lifted all domestic restrictions, declaring that the country was virus-free.

However, strict border restrictions remained in place - with only citizens and essential workers allowed in.

But exemptions can be granted and Dr Ashley Bloomfield, New Zealand's director-general of health, said there was an "agreed plan in place as part of the approval process [including] the travel arrangements".

It's not known if the patients are citizens of the UK, New Zealand, or elsewhere.

The women - one in their 30s and one in their 40s - arrived in New Zealand from the UK on the 7 June, via Doha and Brisbane, and entered quarantine.

They stayed in a managed isolation hotel in Auckland and on 12 June applied for an exemption to visit their dying parent - who died later that night.

They were granted permission to travel to Wellington on 13 June.

One of the women had "mild symptoms", but put this down to a pre-existing condition.

They travelled to Wellington in a private vehicle and did not use any public facilities during this journey, Dr Ashley Bloomfield, director-general of health, said on Tuesday,

They stayed with a single family member in Wellington. That family member has now been placed in self-isolation.

The women were tested on Monday and the results were confirmed on Tuesday.

Dr Bloomfield added that going forward, he asked for "anyone being released for compassionate exemption [to be] tested and [have] a negative result" before they are released.

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Video caption'I did a little dance': Smiling Ardern confirming New Zealand is free of Covid-19 in early June
Since 8 June, all arrivals in New Zealand are tested for Covid-19 and have to go through a 14-day period of isolation or quarantine.

Late last Monday, New Zealand moved into the lowest tier of its four-tier alert system - making it one of the few countries in the world to return to pre-pandemic normality.

Under this, social distancing is not required and there are no limits on public gatherings.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern celebrated the move but warned the country would "certainly see cases again", adding that "elimination is not a point in time, it is a sustained effort".

New Zealand has been lauded at a success story for its handling of the virus - it was quick to close its borders and implement a strict nationwide lockdown.

The newest cases bring New Zealand's total number of cases since the outbreak began to 1,506. The death toll remains unchanged at 22.

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wakeycentraloneleeds said:
If i read this right where did these two people isolate for 14 days?. Seems New Zealand did not enforce their own rules.
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New Zealand has confirmed two new cases of coronavirus, ending a 24-day streak of no new infections in the country.

Both women, who are from the same family, had travelled from the UK and were given special permission to attend the funeral of a parent.

Last week New Zealand lifted all domestic restrictions, declaring that the country was virus-free.

However, strict border restrictions remained in place - with only citizens and essential workers allowed in.

But exemptions can be granted and Dr Ashley Bloomfield, New Zealand's director-general of health, said there was an "agreed plan in place as part of the approval process [including] the travel arrangements".

It's not known if the patients are citizens of the UK, New Zealand, or elsewhere.


One of the women had "mild symptoms", but put this down to a pre-existing condition.

They travelled to Wellington in a private vehicle and did not use any public facilities during this journey, Dr Ashley Bloomfield, director-general of health, said on Tuesday,

They stayed with a single family member in Wellington. That family member has now been placed in self-isolation.

The women were tested on Monday and the results were confirmed on Tuesday.

Dr Bloomfield added that going forward, he asked for "anyone being released for compassionate exemption [to be] tested and [have] a negative result" before they are released.

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Video caption'I did a little dance': Smiling Ardern confirming New Zealand is free of Covid-19 in early June
Since 8 June, all arrivals in New Zealand are tested for Covid-19 and have to go through a 14-day period of isolation or quarantine.

Late last Monday, New Zealand moved into the lowest tier of its four-tier alert system - making it one of the few countries in the world to return to pre-pandemic normality.

Under this, social distancing is not required and there are no limits on public gatherings.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern celebrated the move but warned the country would "certainly see cases again", adding that "elimination is not a point in time, it is a sustained effort".

New Zealand has been lauded at a success story for its handling of the virus - it was quick to close its borders and implement a strict nationwide lockdown.

The newest cases bring New Zealand's total number of cases since the outbreak began to 1,506. The death toll remains unchanged at 22.

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New Zealand lifts all Covid restrictions, declaring the nation virus-free
08 June 2020

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Coronavirus: How New Zealand relied on science and empathy
20 April 2020

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New Zealand PM: No open borders for 'a long time'
05 May 2020

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Coronavirus: How New Zealand got its coffees and fries back
28 April 2020

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They applied and were granted an exemption to visit a dying parent before their 14 day quarantine ended. Unfortunately as they came from The UK they were high risk but given the circumstances I'm sure you can see why an exemption was granted.

The women - one in their 30s and one in their 40s - arrived in New Zealand from the UK on the 7 June, via Doha and Brisbane, and entered quarantine.

They stayed in a managed isolation hotel in Auckland and on 12 June applied for an exemption to visit their dying parent - who died later that night.

This sad event really isn't worthy of the trivialisation you have brought to it.
 
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While I'm sure everyone can see the reason for the exemption it does highlight just how fragile countries like New Zealand will be without a vaccine. If they infect two more people who each in turn infect two more people then before you know it New Zealand will be in full lockdown.

These countries will have to decide if they want to keep the infection at a reasonable level (with some social distancing measures continued) or try to keep the infections at virtually zero so that they can continue as normal but with absolutely zero tolerance for those coming in from other countries.
 
lufctommo said:
While I'm sure everyone can see the reason for the exemption it does highlight just how fragile countries like New Zealand will be without a vaccine. If they infect two more people who each in turn infect two more people then before you know it New Zealand will be in full lockdown.

These countries will have to decide if they want to keep the infection at a reasonable level (with some social distancing measures continued) or try to keep the infections at virtually zero so that they can continue as normal but with absolutely zero tolerance for those coming in from other countries.
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Don't see it ever going away unless we get a vaccine, while Europe and parts of the world are controlling it, worldwide numbers are still increasing.
 
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lufctommo said:
While I'm sure everyone can see the reason for the exemption it does highlight just how fragile countries like New Zealand will be without a vaccine. If they infect two more people who each in turn infect two more people then before you know it New Zealand will be in full lockdown.

These countries will have to decide if they want to keep the infection at a reasonable level (with some social distancing measures continued) or try to keep the infections at virtually zero so that they can continue as normal but with absolutely zero tolerance for those coming in from other countries.
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I think you'll find that NZ will have it locked down quite well and contained to those two UK citizens who arrived and the one family member that they met.
 
Eric Le Merde said:
They applied and were granted an exemption to visit a dying parent before their 14 day quarantine ended. Unfortunately as they came from The UK they were high risk but given the circumstances I'm sure you can see why an exemption was granted.

The women - one in their 30s and one in their 40s - arrived in New Zealand from the UK on the 7 June, via Doha and Brisbane, and entered quarantine.

They stayed in a managed isolation hotel in Auckland and on 12 June applied for an exemption to visit their dying parent - who died later that night.

This sad event really isn't worthy of the trivialisation you have brought to it.
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Trivial? I was just wondering why seeing as we British are as likely to transmit this virus as anyone. Lots of people in the U. K have been denied acess to their dying loved ones.
New Zealand made the rules and i just hope it does not backfire on them. You are very quick to judge based on your miniscule knowledge of myself.
 
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wakeycentraloneleeds said:
Trivial? I was just wondering why seeing as we British are as likely to transmit this virus as anyone. Lots of people in the U. K have been denied acess to their dying loved ones.
New Zealand made the rules and i just hope it does not backfire on them. You are very quick to judge based on your miniscule knowledge of myself.
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Very true I don't know you as a person but you become what you write
 
Eric Le Merde said:
I think you'll find that NZ will have it locked down quite well and contained to those two UK citizens who arrived and the one family member that they met.
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Really? so they arrived on an empty aircraft did they?. Where did the get the virus from who were they in contact with. It was not a non stop flight they changed twice it goes further than N. Z.
 
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