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George Floyd R.I.P

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  1. Treble

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  2. brb

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    The lad done wrong, his father sorted him out, he reported himself, hence why the police came to his house and he was arrested. Two weeks in prison, it ends there for me. He will do his time and have a criminal record against him. Lesson learned and clear message sent to other people.

    For me it's not that he urinated but where he chose to urinate. Very foolish, but that's the consequence of 16 pints the night before.
     
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    Just hope the punishment suits the crime. Emotions are running high at the moment, but shouldn’t sway our judiciary system.
    Mans been a Dick head no doubt. But that’s about it really.

    £60 fine and let Shaquille o Neil take a piss on his Nana’s head.
     
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    The PM said "no-one who cares about this country" could ignore the anti-racist protests sparked by the killing of George Floyd.

    The prime minister said he was setting up a commission to look at inequality as it was "no use just saying that we have made huge progress in tackling racism".

    He wrote: "There is much more that we need to do; and we will. It is time for a cross-governmental commission to look at all aspects of inequality - in employment, in health outcomes, in academic and all other walks of life."

    Just some of the issues that have been highlighted in previous reports...
    • Black Caribbean pupils are permanently excluded from school three times as often as white British classmates
    • White British pupils on free school meals perform the worst at key stage two, with just 32% reaching the expected level
    • The gap between Chinese/Indian and White pupils is growing – in Wales 79.8% of Chinese pupils and 60.8% of Asian pupils achieved A-C grade GCSEs compared with 55.9% of White pupils.
    • However, White boys from deprived areas continue to have the worst GCSE results overall. Only 28.3% of those in England achieved at least five grade A-C GCSE results.
    • Asian and Chinese school children have the lowest rate of exclusion, Indians have the lowest unemployment rate among ethnic minority groups at 9.2% compared with 17.3% for Pakistanis/Bangladeshis, and Indians are on average paid 8.9% more per hour than White people.
    • Indian, Pakistani and white people are more likely to own their own homes than black and Bangladeshi individuals
    • Unemployment among black, Asian and minority ethnic people is nearly double that of white Britons
    • Rates of smoking are highest in the mixed and white ethnic groups
    • Just over half of white adults ate five portions of fruit and vegetables a day, compared with a third of black adults
    • People from black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds make up 25% of the prison population in England and Wales and 41% of the youth justice system, despite these groups being 14% of the general population.
    • Employment rates amongst people from BME backgrounds were 12% lower than for white counterparts.
    • They were more likely to work in lower paid and lower skilled jobs despite being more likely to have a degree, and just 6% reached top-level management positions, the report found.
    • The economy could receive a £24bn annual boost if businesses stamped out ethnic inequality.
     
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    Note that the punishment is about public indecency so the plaque didn't really come into it in a legal sense. In some professions including mine I've known people to lose their job over something like that. I think the sentence he's been given is fine tbh.
     
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    Mike Graham is about as funny as Ebola, the man’s a prize gammon ****.

    Not a comment on that clip btw.
     
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    We have learned nothing from George Floyd. I give you Atlanta and Rayshard Brooks. Not a UK problem or is it. I could give you so many reasons why the shooting of Brooks was completely un-neccessary, just weeks after kneeling on a mans neck, the Cops still waste black lives, shocking.

    I'd love to sit and educate those cops, but I doubt I'd have the energy, to educate the institutionalised.
     
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  8. Sucky

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    Ive just seen the full video, man asked for it im afraid.

    What do you expect when you try to run off, then get tackled and then steal a tazer off the plod and attempt to shoot him with it.
    Not saying it's right but it's a massive possibility your not getting out of that
    Alive so why do it.

    I think the real Issue here is, why don't the cops shoot to disable rather than chest or head shots.

    Bam! pop one in his calf and he's down. And alive more importantly.
     
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    Yeh I read what you wrote yesterday. I honestly don't know anything about Rayshard's case and the reason I've not looked into it is I'm sure it will be more of the same.

    The stuff I've posted is specific to the U.K. and I think highlights a lot of issues and what I was getting at is just how big the problem is. If I was to stick my neck out without trying to be political but from a cause pov, then racism coupled with austerity has been a massive factor.
     
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    If you are running off, then you are not threat, think about it. They had his car and identity via the licence plate. Just pick him up later, but no pop, pop and another dead black man.
     
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    Whoops didn’t even realised he’d been sentenced <doh>
    Yeah two weeks is decent.
     
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    What about running off with the officers tazer whilst shooting it at him, that a threat?
     
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    Asking to be shot dead is a bit strong like, but I agree that they should shoot to stop the escape and disarm him, not shoot to kill. He’d fired the taser anyway, so was effectively unarmed. A shot to the leg brings it to and end and he lives.
     
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    @Suckmyklopp ...

    I honestly don't get why these cops in Atlanta shot dead Rayshard Brooks. I believe I've seen most aspects of various footage. the guy obliged with everything he was asked to do. Yes, the guy may have been pissed and failed a test, but to that point, there was no problem. Anyhow, a tussle ensued, one thing led to another, yes i know about the tazer, but.....why didn't they just let him get away, and pick him up later!?

    He couldn't take the car, he had run away from it, the cops had his licence plate and he had already co-operated with everything, in full view of cameras. I don't get the training where cops have to aprehend someone immediately....let alone shoot the guy dead. The cops are their own worst enemy, someone really needs to retrain and educate them, stand back, what happens if he runs off......er he will have to walk home, sleep it off, then nick him later.

    It's always a dilemma with policing, I don't like cops being armed, not even a tazer, but I also accept, there are situations, where a threat may have required one.

    I know this is America, and we are talking from a British perspective on arms, but I just don't see the logic in the events that unfolded. The guy was a sleep he was harming no one. He took some awaking. He passed every test, except the last one, alcohol, I do not know what the reading was, but what I do know, he was fit enough to get away from two cops and out-run them!

    He shouldn't have pointed the cops tazer he grabbed. He failed a breath test, but had no means of getting back to his car, without getting arrested. He spoke coherently and politely to the cops at all time. In fact he was your model citizen, apart from his 10 seconds of deciding to leg it.

    But to shoot him dead!? IMHO having weighed everything up, the Cops are mad. I've known people in the UK under similar circumstances, where the cops just come back and pick them up later, albeit in them cases it was more desperate to do so, because no breathaliser had been carried out. Everything was completed on the black guy, down to knowing it was his car, his licence plate. Crazy messed up Americans.

    Most senseless shooting ever, oh all because he grabbed the tazer!
     
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    Yeh and that's it basically, totally avoidable. From him and the cops.

    but I'm not buying this guy was some unfortunate victim like Floyd. Not even in the same ball park
     
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    So, what did he do?

    Nothing. Are we seriously saying this guy was a threat because he had a tazer, are YOU making assumptions in someway the guy was dangerous, why's that, because he's black?

    If he was a well dressed white person, running away, instead of a well dressed black person running away, what were the odds on the white guy getting shot!?
     
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    It’s not the same scenario but it highlights a point nonetheless. Why shoot to kill, is that a policy? Surely they’re armed to protect themselves and not to kill when faced with a suspected offender running away? This is where their system is ****ed up. If the bloke runs away and evades those 2 cops, he ain’t getting far and they know his identity, only now he’s dead. The worst outcome there should have been a shot in the leg, now they’re scooping up another corpse and it was completely unnecessary. Whether the outcome would have been the same if the bloke was white, is a matter of debate.
     
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    I agree with you bro, his licence is no hardly confirmation of his real identity anyways, **** man I've got a dodgy dvla license.

    But that's not the point, the point for me is why did these cops shoot to kill. Shoot that fuker in the leg and get your tazer back. Everyone's alive and you keep your job and freedom.

    Totally unnecessary but again why do so many of these shootings by police end up In Fatalities.

    Gotta be the way they are trained obviously?
     
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    He was every bit like Floyd. So he failed a breath test, but managed not only to get out the grasp of two cops, but also out run them <laugh>

    They had his details, just pick him up later. As regards the tazer, they had not long ago interigated the guy, they must have realised he was no harm to anyone. He took it, to stop it being fired at him.

    Weapons are meant as a means of defence, not just to blantantly shoot the guy dead, because you can.
     
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    Are you fukin serious? Don't pull that **** with me mate<laugh>

    Cos he's black<laugh> **** off I aint trebs <laugh>
     
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