I agree with you. We need to avoid getting bogged down with arguments about the removal of statues of Winston Churchill or denial of access to John Cleese across the public media. This sort of thing can get endlessly silly and more importantly, not only do they carry is off away from what ought to be some much more important areas of debate it also has the potential to entrench ideas on both sides of that debate and that is when listening stops
This i agree with with and is why i believe that so many are pissed off with this whole BLM movement. The rioting and mayhem that is occurring is only adding to the difficulties that are faced for this group to be heard. Whilst they may have had the best intentions, all they have done is alienate a hell of a lot of support by showing the world their own racism and the violence that would appear to accompany it.
“We can no longer from today onward be proud, we can no longer remain silent on the senseless unlawful killing, sly racism of another human being based only on what? Their skin colour. “We need to speak out in peaceful demonstrations just like today. So well done Watford, inject the vaccine. “We must not use the demonstration for selfish motives and turn it into rioting and looting. We need to be united in non-violent demonstrations. Show them where it hurts, abstain from spending your money in their shops and economies, and invest in black-owned businesses. “And that’s for all communities if you want to uplift yourselves, invest in your own businesses. The transcript of the first part of Antony Joshua's speech from the other day. Is what he said acceptable?
Which statistics? The ones that suggest that more Asians graduate university than caucasians? The statistics also confirm that Asians are an even smaller minority in the western world.
To my shame I hadn’t heard of Jacinta Price until last week. As I said earlier, she speaks a lot of common sense. I’m no historian but I reckon that every country and civilisation evolves through migration (be that forced or not) and invasion. I don’t think there’s a country in the world today that hasn’t been affected by one or both. Yes there are nasty horrible people out there, but in general it is human nature to get on with each other.
Agree wholeheartedly. Quick question for you seeing as you're part of the thin blue line. When called to a disturbance are you more cautious in your approach if the offenders are of indigenous descent? The only reason i ask is that one of my friends here in SA has often said how much they have to check themselves in case of an impropriety claim from the offender.
White men took blacks into slavery, when freed they were always going to be seen as 2nd class citizens. A sign of the times. A century or two of not been given jobs, money and being persecuted against is going to lead more of them to crime in order to make ends meet. That crime leads to more mistrust and racism, which leads to more crime, which leads to more racism, which leads to more crime. A vicious circle. A circle that needs to be attacked on two fronts. Against racism and against crime.
I guess we kind of do, quite a lot of them. ‘Black origin’ is surely a factual statement and therefore cannot be deemed racist?
However in today's society it excludes others and as such prevents equal opportunities based upon race. ergo rascist
And most rational people aren't. Just seems at times that some choose to play the race card when it suits them.
Certainly do. The British Isles are the perfect example of this. People have been migrating to these islands continuously for tens of thousands of years. And if you're going to take this concept to its logical extreme, we all originated in Africa. Due to some genetic changes and because some groups interbred with other hominins some groups started looking a little bit different to the others. But ultimately, we are all the same and the concept that one group is superior to another is absolutely ****ing ludicrous.
I believe it may be a sweeping generalisation ... ... something the BLM movement is fighting against.
Ah right, so the Black Lives Matter movement would be better called All Lives Matter ... ... that's more like it.
If Britain is the racist hotbed, some people claim, you'd have to wonder why so many people want to emigrate there.
This has come up in various forms over the last few pages. This and Stormzy offering a scholarship to black kids. I ask you a question. Imagine you have an exam for which you spend 2 weeks revising and learning on the internet, in books and with friends, while another person spent those 2 weeks being denied access to the library, the internet, and study groups. Then on the day of the exam, they say 'actually we did wrong, sorry, you can now have access to all of these things' Who has an advantage in the exam? Are the two people equal? Have they really been given the exact same opportunity as the other person? A fair examiner may look at that situation and conclude that the second person had been treated unfairly. They may be given more time to prepare for the exam, to make up for the unfair starting point that they had. Would you say that was an unfair thing to do? So for centuries and certainly up until very recently in UK history, black people have faced outright prejudice. They've been denied access to equal opportunities and even now, still face discrimination around the UK. It is better today than it was. There are laws that forbid outright discrimination. But the black community has been denied access to the library and those study resources, and are now told to pass the same exam as white people. They suffer from greater poverty because of the lack of opportunities that their mothers and fathers had to go to university, get better jobs and so forth. Some people managed it, despite the barriers, but almost half of black kids in this country are in poverty. Now what Stormzy does is say 'I feel that my community has been denied opportunities for so long, that I would like to make sure that I redress that balance in some way, by offering some poor black kids who come from a disadvantaged area a chance to do something positive, and hopefully drag one or two more families out of the poverty cycle. Bit by bit. And what AJ says is that if you have a choice to shop in two places, choose the one that brings up your community, not someone else's. Put your money into something positive, and drag a business out of 'survival' and into 'expansion', helping other people in the community get jobs. Bit by bit, small, positive actions. So I think both of those things are forms of positive action that people can take to drag black communities up using their own means, without handouts.
