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Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

Discussion in 'Watford' started by andytoprankin, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. oldfrenchhorn

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    Former Government advisor Professor Neil Ferguson has just told Commons Science Committee: "Had we introduced lock down measures a week earlier we would have reduced the final death toll by at least a half"

    So by Johnson and his flunkeys playing around with Brexit, 20,000 -30,000 have needlessly died to date. This has to be the biggest disgrace by a British government of all time. How anyone can take this man seriously is beyond belief.
     
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  2. superhorns

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    If you bothered to look at their guesswork you will see they predict the UK to be almost identical to France and Italy. The big difference is our unemployment level is far lower and the UK is good at creating jobs. You really need to worry about many of the EU countries already in poverty.
     
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  3. yorkshirehornet

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    Amazing how you choose to deny the facts in front of you....... but of course you are a BoJo 'clone'... In that you uncritically accept every statement coming out of No 10.


    Ferguson was used by the Govt as one of the top scientists.... and he like me who you choose to ridicule.. has said thousands of lives would have been saved if we had gone into lockdown just one week earlier.....

    Or will you try and 'twist' those 'facts' ?
     
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  4. oldfrenchhorn

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    "So they have dropped all international comparisons and now compare the daily death rate with what it was at the peak. This is even by their standards deception and dishonesty on a truly dismal scale. Yet another day when our death toll is greater than rest of Europe combined." Not my comment, but I agree. Just another example of how they are trying to manipulate the news.
     
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  5. superhorns

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    You need to delve beneath the headlines and do some research to help you stop posting silly items.
     
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  6. yorkshirehornet

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    Screenshot_2020-06-10 Home - BBC News.png
    BBC front page news... have a look......................
     
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  7. superhorns

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    Exactly, try to read the whole article including the chart that shows the UK, Italy and France almost identical. DUH! <doh>
     
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  8. yorkshirehornet

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    Actually if you LOOK at my post.. I was referring to the DEATHS
     
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  9. oldfrenchhorn

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    At the press conference this evening, Johnson, Vallance and Whitty all refused to say that Ferguson was wrong in his assessment of the number of deaths that can be laid at the door of this government. Professor John Edmunds said the same thing on Sunday, so it is not just one expert calling Johnson out.
     
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  10. yorkshirehornet

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    Jaw dropping this one;


    A football commentator said his "jaw hit the floor" when he received a threatening email that appeared to have been sent from Parliament.

    House of Commons authorities are now investigating the message sent to Dan O'Hagan, who has worked for BBC, Eurosport and ESPN.

    The email, sent by someone called David on Tuesday, said he was working "very, very hard" to get Mr O'Hagan's address.

    The commentator said: "I was shaking, taken aback and frightened."

    It was sent after Mr O'Hagan, who lives in Norfolk, criticised the radio station LBC on Twitter for employing Nigel Farage.

    The email said: "You cannot be allowed to belittle, mock and intimidate working class white men, whilst peddling your bourgeoisie, privileged leftism in your highly-paid career.

    "Football is not for white elites like you, it belongs to working class men of all colours.

    "Send me your address now and we can discuss this further in person. It is important that we do so."

    Mr O'Hagan said: "The email came through a website so it had the IP address, I ran that through a scanner and lo and behold it was from the House of Commons."

    "My jaw hit the floor. Extraordinary"

    'Abuse coming back'
    An IP address is a unique number that every computer or device on the internet has, and includes location information.

    Mr O'Hagan said he had spoken to the police about the email, but felt there was "no direct threat" against him.

    "I just want the person who's done this to found and outed," he added.

    Although he said the email came "immediately" after his Tweet about LBC, the 42-year-old said it could be linked to posts critical of the government.

    He said: "To speak against the government on Twitter, you get, it appears from inside the House of Commons, abuse coming back at you."

    A House of Commons spokesman said: "We are aware of an threatening email received by a television presenter.

    "We take threats of this nature very seriously and are investigating the matter."

    Norfolk Police said in a statement its inquiries into the email "found that no criminal offences had been committed and the investigation has therefore been closed".
     
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  11. superhorns

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    Wrong again, I was referring to your lazy post using headlines that does not stand up to scrutiny of any kind.
     
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  12. yorkshirehornet

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    From the OED.... ???

    Meanwhile you IGNORE the point i want to make about the 1,000 of deaths... have you read behind the headlines on that one??????

    DAMNING
     
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  13. superhorns

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    The experts say it is far too early to make assumptions and comparisons on figures, makes sense to me.
     
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  14. yorkshirehornet

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    Depends on your so-called expert eh..... Pretty obvious it would have saved many many lives to most people..........................
     
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  15. oldfrenchhorn

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    No doubt it would make sense to you as you cannot see that there is a whole body of experts there who are not employed by the government and have independent studies. Some of them have said that your government has cost tens of thousands of lives. You have not disputed that, the government have not disputed it, they just want it kicked down the road. A tactic that has been used for as long as I can remember when a government knows it has made a pig's ear of something.
     
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    How exactly does that advance the argument ?
     
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    You were quite prepared to make comparisons earlier on in the crisis when the French, Spanish and Italian death figures were higher than that of the UK. or do you try to deny that now ? The fact is that Britain has 5 times as many deaths as Germany despite having a smaller population, and having the advantage of being an island as opposed to having the 9 land borders which Germany has !
     
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  18. superhorns

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    Proving that patients actually died of covid-19 is much stricter in Germany than in the UK where thousands have been labelled as dying from it rather than the real reason. As I said previously it is far too early to make fair comparisons without all of the facts.
     
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  19. colognehornet

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    How do you know what German doctors put down on their post mortem reports as the cause of death ? If someone had cancer but would possibly have lived a year longer died prematurely as a result of Covid 19 then they are put down as a corona death, even if it wasn't the only factor. All you are doing here is trying to wriggle out of this by making bold statements based on what you hope to be true, rather than actual evidence.
     
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    According to the former head of the WHO cancer programme, doctors and medics may have placed Covid19 as the cause of death too easily. He estimates the UK's total could be less than half the registered figures. In Germany a death can only be recorded following an examination by the clinical team involved in the end of life certificates.
     
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