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George Floyd R.I.P

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  1. Spurlock

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  3. Looney Leftie

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    Whose denying history?

    Is the statue history or what the person did history?

    I'd argue a statue of a slave trader that doesn't tell you they were a slave trader is denying history.
     
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    People have to learn that the norms of the past were just that, thankfully we have moved on.
    I get really pissed off with ****ers using false equivalence by trying to link Colston with Saville, it's total bullshit. One was a legitimate, legal trader in his time (and obviously had plenty of customers if he made a fortune from it, let's trace all his customers progeny and lock them up), where the other was a total deviant who knowingly broke the law and hid it like the **** he was.
    Like i have said before, the fact it was legal doesn't make it right (now) but 300 years ago it was kind of accepted. Today we have the internet and for quite a while before that telephones, news and views can spread much quicker so things (should) change quicker but with 7 billion people in the world nothing will happen as fast as we would like.
     
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    I don't pretend to remember the history of them, but I know Idi Amin was one evil fooker, and that wasn't even hundreds of years ago, that's in the last half century. I'm sure he tortured people as well has massacred them.
     
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    Or that he ploughed money into making a city.....
     
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    I'll give you Cambodia, and Pol Pott also.....
     
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    Also true !
     
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    If it said used money gained from slavery to build statues and edifices to whitewash his evil deeds I think that would be a fair representation of history
     
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    I think the point I'm trying to make here is this is often portrayed in the media as a worldwide protest, and I have absolutely no issue with that. But when we start finger pointing at figures from hundreds of years ago, and rightly so. I'm merely giving a gentle reminder that some of the most evil people in the last century were black. Now they may have been oppressed by white people originally, but it still don't disguise the fact of atrocities which were commited on black people, by black people. It would be right to argue they are not racial issues, but I could argue, they were some form of cleansing if you got on the wrong side of a tyrant.
     
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    Let's just wipe out our whole history then..

    We never sailed the seas....We never once ruled half the world...


    It was always peace and harmony, and all foreigners came here for a holiday..

    ****ing easyjet.
     
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    What’s your view on the Belgians removing the statue of King Leopold today?
     
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    But untrue, he never raised any statues and had been dead quite a while before the one that was pulled down <laugh>
     
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    Ethnic cleansing of black tribes by black people has never happened..


    Erased from history.
     
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    I honestly don't know, so I'll refrain from comment.
     
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    It rarely is mate, i am a great believer that humans (like most animals) are more tribal than racial.
     
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    Read books

    you don’t need statues to learn about history

    you hadn’t even heard of the bloke in Bristol before yesterday.

    Trust me...read books...if history is important to you
     
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    I'm actually offering the opposite,
    Recognition of our history, warts and all.
     
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