George Floyd R.I.P

The book of negroes is an interesting read..... How one woman a literate slave educated by imams in Africa before her deportation documented or created names for many slaves so they could fight on the British side during the revolution..... We needed the numbers and promised them nova scotia in reward and freedom.......see below for reference of treaty that made this difficult.

Head Quarters New York 15th April 1783
Orders

It is the Commander in Chief's Orders that the following
Extract from the Seventh Article of the Provisional Treaty
between Great Britain and the United States of America
be strictly attended to and complied with by all Persons
whatsoever under his Command

"And his Britannic Majesty shall, with all convenient Speed
"and without any Destruction or carrying away
"any Negroes, or other Property of the American Inhabitants,
"withdraw all his Armies, Garrisons, and Fleets from the said
"United States, and from every Port, Place, and Harbour, within the
"same; leaving in all Fortifications the American Artillery that
"may be therein, and shall also order and cause all the Archives,
"Records, Deeds and Papers, belonging to any of the said States
"or their Citizens which in the Course of the War may have fallen
"into the Hands of his Officers to be forthwith restored and ~
"delivered to the proper States and Persons to whom they belong"

All Masters of Vessels are particularly cautioned, at their Peril not to
commit any Breach of the above Article

 

Depends who was erecting the statue tbh and who was supporting it. I doubt many looked beyond the fact he was doing what many others were doing and it was considered the norm. His reputation in the Bristol community would've been largely formed by how much he was contributing to various establishments. For that reason I can understand how a statue could've been erected. I reckon there were plenty against it, but who were they and how much influence did they have. Society was different and the true elite classed ruled the world. I just don't see that comparison with someone right now having the gaul to stick up a statue of Saville. I do believe the fact it remained up until yesterday is disgraceful though.

 

The statue was erected 175 years after his death, so no not really.

 

you use the word erect a lot.....suppose we could have a statue of russell brand ERECTED

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on par with jesus statues after death

 

sleep tight my brothers and sisters, remember the revolution will not be televised.

 

I doubt any of what I said changed much for Bristol in that time.

Edit: or should I say attitudes

 

Smacks of some old money establishment wanting to commemorate a man from when ‘times were better’.

 

... thing is mate ... people (general public) were fed such misinformation back then that many believed that Africans were not human beings at all but some different species not 'created in God's image' like "us" ... now that sounds crazy to us now, but the yanks also used that same precept as late as the Vietnam war and many a naive teenage conscript bought it ...

 

Just watching Sitting In Limbo.

You'd think it was a straight forward decision which in itself is bad enough. But the devil really is in the detail. The confinement, the abusive questions they were asked, the repeated harassment and never letting it go, how much stress it must've caused and the affect on anyone's mental health after the 2nd or 3rd time of being called in let alone the 5th or 6th, persistently hounding them until they broke them down mentally. Fckin hell.

 

Indeed. It’s simply unbelievable that this happened in the last few years. Theresa May and the Tories hostile environment in action. It’s a ****ing national disgrace.

 

No mate you're wrong, Priti Patel was called a p*** in the playground... so yonaw she can't be a sellout.

 

Thing is mate, I can't ever remember being taught none of this stuff at school, not that I learned fook all anyway, but I can never remember any discussions about slaves. I think the closest our era got to the topic of slavery was via Kunta Kinte, said a bit in jest, but I'm sure you know what I mean. Maybe my memory is just going.

 

You can’t remember it, as it never happened mate. It was barely touched on in history education.

 

I think the only thing that interested me at school was the plague and fire of london, so mass death and a City burning

 

I'd look at the next lesson, and think fook this, I'm off somewhere to play football with all the other skivving fookers. Although sometimes the football could turn quite brutal, all trying to knock lumps out of one another.

 

It wasn't and isn't taught in schools. Mainstream history lessons regarding Britain go from Roman Britain, Dark Ages, Medieval, Tudor, Elizabethan, talk about the plague and fire of London for a bit, then skip a couple of hundred years of Colonialism and Genocide and catch up for World war I and WWII

 

I’m crying here

 

Pretty much how I remember it.

 

**** knows what schools you lot went to