I could never bring myself to read anything regarding the Saville case, it's just too sick to want to plant that kind of knowledge my head. But that last bit you said about dead bodies, did he really?
I'm afraid so. And I share the same view as you, it's not really something I want to read in detail and have in my head. The sick ****.
Much as I think that old codger from 400 years ago was a **** for what he did, I think the comparisons aren't quite right. He lived at time when what he was doing was considered legal... who knows probably ethical as well. Circumstances allowed for it to happen and for the statue to be erected. Gacy and Saville committed despicable acts when they were not only illegal but considered completely abhorrent.
I'm not quite sure why i liked that post, so no disrespect but i just unliked it. Cheers for the info though....i think
Fk he was only doing what was seen as ok by the crown and the church...... Yeah alls forgiven put statue back up and give it a polish preferably done by shoe shine black boy. I get your point but what's done is done and he's fking history.
Point taken, and the Savile reference is extreme to make a point. But even given the passage of time, slavery was always wrong. It wasn't just black folk being sold to white owners. It was systematic raping, killing, stealing children from their parents, burning people alive in their houses, throwing people overboard on Atlantic crossings. There's no time in history where that can be considered ethical or normal.
No I was referring to erecting the statue in the first place. Should it remain in modern times? For the same reasons I stated above - no. He's history but sadly the practice isn't. Human trafficking still goes on. People/workers from the sub-continent are treated like scum in the arab world. The palestinians are treated worse than animals by successive Israeli governments.
And what? Where did the money come from? Oh yeah trading in slaves. Statues are about adoration, and the man saw over 19,000 of his cargo lobbed in the sea when they got ill or weak, the fact he bequeathed some of his blood money means **** all. It’s like arguing that Jimmy Savile commemorations should be left in place as he was such a great philanthropist and charity fund raiser.
Agreed .... Which pains me to be seeing a parliament full of Zionist friends of Israel crowd telling us how out of order we are by using push bikes as weapons of mass destruction against a cavalry charge
Nah, he crammed them into holds that were tiny to give him the maximum return, when they got dysentery from sitting in their own ****. He had them lobbed over the side and claimed the insurance money on them. I’m not having that was ever even legal or ethical. There was opposition to the slave trade throughout its history, as people like him treated slaves worse than cattle. The slave trade is a stain on this entire nations history, and the fact that it’s never been probably taught in schools, is probably explained by the fact that circa 20% of our current landed establishment, owe their family fortunes to the trade and the reparations made to compensate them, when it was finally ended.
That's a good analogy you made there, and never thought of it like that. As you say, Saville raised lots of money for charity, but you wouldn't even think of putting a statue up in his name.
You do now......scared for life now dude. People fixed it for Jimmy, don't think you can just walk in and out without getting noticed especially looking like that fking repulsive dirty old twat did
All of the plaques bearing his name and things named after him were rightly changed. They even removed his headstone.
If anyone wants to really avoid having their piss boiled, I’d advise against flicking on Limbo currently on BBC1. Talk about timing.
