Ironically clearly you do. Reading is more than just the literal mate but also the implied. If you honestly think he's not suggesting something you're being stupid or naive.
Makes you wonder how normal slave trade was back in the bad old days. I’d imagine in 300 years for example, there’ll be much of what we think is normal now, looked back on as utterly disgraceful.
Colston supported and endowed schools, almshouses, hospitals and churches in Bristol, London and elsewhere. Many of his charitable foundations survive to this day.[4] In Bristol, he founded almshouses in King Street and Colstons Almshouses on St Michael's Hill, endowed Queen Elizabeth's Hospital school and helped found Colston's Hospital, a boarding school which opened in 1710 leaving an endowment to be managed by the Society of Merchant Venturers for its upkeep. He gave money to schools in Temple (one of which went on to become St Mary Redcliffe and Temple School) and other parts of Bristol, and to several churches and the cathedral. He was a strong Tory and high-churchman, and was returned as Member of Parliament (MP) for Bristol in 1710 for just one parliament.[5] (Wiki)
I find it really hard to believe that people ever thought that was 'normal' - I'm fooking old mate, and i've never ever thought even having servants was normal, let alone slaves. That's nowt to do with parenting or education either, that's about being a human being and a gut instinct telling you something don't feel right. I don't believe I'm any more special than the next person, and if I feel those emotions, I defy other people to say they don't. I've seen racism and I've called out in real life, when other people wouldn't. It's like people don't want the fuss, it's not even about growing a pair of balls, it's simple instinct of knowing the difference between right and wrong, and fook me, can I be loud if I think something is wrong, I leave people under no misunderstanding, we only have one life bro, and it don't matter if I'm 300 years old, you know, you just fooking know. Slavery was always utterly disgraceful even 300 years ago and they knew it...Fosse told me... Steps off soap box.
Quite a few unsavoury practices are still considered the norm in many parts of the world today. Just not against black people but within different ethnicity. And the way animals are treated in some countries is fcking disgraceful as well.
That sounds like you’re making excuses and also justifying the abhorrent racism of days gone by. You’re probably sitting on your laptop now with a Tommy Robinson screensaver and you’ll be wearing a big white gown from head to foot.
Totatally **** me ... and I teach the generation who will be looking after us as we grow old... We is doomed I tell you ... doomed
I've posted above there are places where similar practices are still considered the norm. The complete indifference towards it stems from an ingrained belief (probably from the environment they've grown up in and known all their lives) that the person being treated in that way is sub-human... or at least nowhere near equal or entitled to the same rights.
Well, I thought I was more interested in this topic than it turns out. I don’t have anything to add to this.
The George Floyd murder has taken an interesting legal twist. The family legal team, want the UN to get involved and make this murder in the first degree. Which if this were to happen, it not only affects the murderers but will result in the investigations into law enforcement agencies. I wish them luck, bring it on... https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020...s-family-appeals-to-u-n-to-intervene-in-case/
Fair enough Ginge, it's worth considering who was benefiting from those contributions? I honestly don't know. But I'm cautious of equating hospitals and schools of the 16th/17th century to how they are today. It may well have been for the poor and destitute or for fellow rich and privileged, I don't know. Then there's the whole thing about whether those things outweigh the fact it was largely from blood money. He may well have been a top bloke and it was just the way of the world back then.
Archers mentioned it earlier in the thread, that the Cenotaph and Churchill's statue completely dominate the narrative when they get graffitied. No matter how important the issue being protested against, the Irag war, Racism etc as soon as Churchill gets a grass mohican or a bit of spray paint goes on the Cenotaph, all of that goes out of the window and the media and newspapers go ****ing ape **** about it. It's happened loads of times, to me that suggests that it's quite likely that they are deliberately targeted, because those who want to disrupt the protests know that it will dominate the message and paint the protesters in a bad light.
Somebody else mentioned it earlier in the thread. Would it be okay to put up a statue of Jimmy Saville outside Stoke Mandeville Hospital, because he did a lot of charity work for them ? The answer is no it wouldn't, because he raped kids and ****ed dead bodies.
