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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. bobmid

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    Looks like people are getting sick of just words and rhetoric. I think this is just the beginning to be honest.
     
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    OMG, my ribs are aching...:emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:

     
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    Police are injured as missiles at London Black Lives Matter rally


    https://mol.im/a/8397019

    Well they’ve certainly won me over, that’s for sure
     
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    I wouldn't have shed a tear if they smacked his legs to get him down
     
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    I am truly and utterly devastated by this, so angry, upset and disgusted.
    My grandad fought against real fascism, he didn’t volunteer, but got sent to fight for his country against an enemy that threatened our very existence. Did service in France, Africa and Burma.....was wounded and saw many of his mates die a horrible death.

    All for this. I’m struggling here, truly struggling.
     
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  8. BobbyD

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    Its the youth of today.

    Of course there is injustice and we should fight it but for me its all me me me and entitlement nowadays. Nearly as bad as the blind tory voters

    Sure there are lots of peaceful marches but I'm noticing that in a lot of these violent twitter feeds its predominantly a fairly young group. Thats me ****ed though stereotyping the groups of less than peaceful protestors.
     
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    The march of progressive censorship
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    It’s official: criticising Black Lives Matter is now a sackable offence, even here in the British Isles, thousands of miles away from the social conflict currently embroiling the US. As protesters again fill the streets of a rainy London on Saturday, as part of a now internationalised backlash against the brutal police killing of George Floyd by Minneapolis police, those who criticise them do so at their peril – as two men have recently found out.

    Stu Peters, a presenter on Manx Radio, has been suspended, pending an investigation, for an on-air exchange with a black caller. He said nothing racist, you can read the transcript for yourself. What he did was rubbish the idea of white privilege: ‘I've had no more privilege in my life than you have.’ And he questioned the wisdom of staging a protest on the Isle of Man against a killing in Minnesota: ‘You can demonstrate anywhere you like, but it doesn't make any sense to me.’

    Manx Radio has even referred the exchange to the Isle of Man’s Communications Commission to assess whether any broadcast codes have been broken. And for what? He took issue with the idea that skin colour confers privilege, regardless of any other consideration: a mad ideology whose adherents will actually readily say that white homeless people enjoy white privilege.

    And he wondered out loud if a protest against US cops on a small island in the Irish Sea is, well, a bit pointless. If Peters has broken any code it is a very new and unwritten one, and he’s not the only person to fall foul of it in recent days. Martin Shipton, chief reporter for the Western Mail, has been asked to step down as a judge of the Wales Book of the Year competition over some tweets he posted about the BLM protests in Cardiff. He said they were exercises in ‘virtue-signalling’ and expressed concern about the effect they might have on the spread of Covid-19. He also got into some robust exchanges with people who told him that, as an old white man, he should just shut up.

    How did we get here? In the space of just a few days, Black Lives Matter, its tenets and adherents have become almost unquestionable. No one worth wasting breath on disagrees with the literal message of the movement. But those who dare criticise a lot of the identitarian ideological guff that unfortunately accompanies the movement now risk being treated as heretics. Even criticising these mass gatherings for breaking lockdown – remember when sitting too closely on a beach was a scoldable offence? – is treated as alarming evidence of non-conformity or perhaps even racism.

    This is all a neat demonstration that censorship is not exclusively about state clampdowns. The suspension of Peters and the sacking of Shipton are examples of what John Stuart Mill called the ‘tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling’ – ‘the tendency of society to impose, by other means than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct on those who dissent from them’. If expressing an opinion, even one as mild as ‘I support the sentiment, but I’m not sure these protests are a great idea’, the resulting backlash can cost you your job or social status.

    But this is also profoundly worrying – not only for free speech but also for the quality of our discussion about racism and how to defeat it. We are being compelled to have ‘a conversation’ about race, but one in which any dissent from the most extreme and absurd positions – such as that Western society is still racist to the core and that dirt-poor white folk benefit from it, even if they don’t realise it – are treated as suspect. This is a recipe for censorship, division and neverending culture war – and nothing else.
     
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    On the bright side it’s distracting people from our world-beating pandemic response.
     
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    I have seen the pictures on TV and this is not a protest it's disgusting behaviour.
    Should send in the riot police crack a few skulls and nick a few of them. Dr King knew how to protest without all that cr2p.
     
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    According to you Watford everything is a distraction? I think people understand there is other news as well?
     
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    Probably not, hence the phrase “a good day to bury bad news”.
     
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    Mate summer is here and we will be allowed out soon!
     
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    You’re high risk. I’d give it six months.
     
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    Cheeky git ’baldness, is not a factor.
     
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    Blimey the shadow chancellor Anneliese Dodds is hopelesss? Couldn't give an answer to anything. <doh>
     
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    Coming to a town near you


     
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    I am too intimidated to reply to this.
     
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    The government really need to be careful with how they deal with the protests and protesters. Confidence in them is declining even amongst their hardcore followers. Patels comments and those by johnson this morning could really escalate things. It's not looking good for them considering the windrush scandal, Johnsons racist remarks, Hancock's incompetence etc.
     
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