Didn't Churchill say that we use this political system because it's been the most successful so far. He didn't mean it as, it's as good as it get's, but that we can eventually improve because we must always adapt. You final point about the population is interesting because I was speaking to a friend about the failing of communism last night. We are both interested in history. I basically pointed out that communisms greatest failure and the reason it will never succeed is because it's too reliant on everyone in the country being ideological dedicated to the system. For the state to work, you need everyone to be motivated, for everyone to be motivated they must fundamentally believe that Communism is going to work and they WANT it. But this can never be achieved, because you never have a mass majority supporting one system and both Mao's China and the Soviet Union became Commie through bloody revolution, not a sweeping political change. The success of capitalism and the failure of communism is that in a capitalist society you can go about your life, not giving a **** about politics, doing your daily work and building your own life while inadvertently supporting the state. While under Communism you must go to work with dedicated and driven by supporting the state first.
Hmm - this is a worrying development. First thing I’ve seen that has put doubt in my mind about the deal. Not certain either way - but potentially significant. https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...doubt-as-wto-rules-pirate-tv-channel-is-saudi
Obviously have to see the report in greater depth but it puts the UK government in a difficult situation. If we endorse it (i.e conclude that the Saudi Government are connected to piracy on a UK asset) there's no way the takeover can go through. It explains why the process has taken so long - and laughable that none of these 'experts' highlighted it before! Shows you how little they are connected to this.
There’s nothing in that article which can incriminate the directors listed on those Companies House docs. Qatar bribed FIFA to win the right to host a World Cup. I’m fairly sure the PL can be won over by some Saudi Arabia housekeeping.
Is this not the same Jumped up Chinese Guy ( Wichard Wees) who writes for the Independent and Guardian newspapers ? I seem to have read this before in a different way
The link to directors is the key question and definitely the weakest part of the article. However it does mean that Sky, Amazon etc might have reasonable cause to lobby against - and while PIF are richer that Sky, the latter put more money into the PL. I suspect the most likely outcome is a deal cut between broadcasters and the PL to assure broadcasting rights will be respected in future and the deal will get the green light. But it may cause more delays and is the first thing that could genuinely stop the deal if (and its a fairly big if) there’s a legally significant link between Saudi state involvement in beoutq (confirmed by a relevant court) and Saudi state involvement in PIF.
BeoutQ is shut down. It doesn't ****ing matter what this WTO report says, as the station doesn't exist and the Saudi's will just say "it wasn't us, as soon as we found out we took action and shut it down". Will we get through more than one day without a ****ing red flag article from some jumped up journo desperate to be the one who killed NUFC?
this is the guy www.theguardian.com/profile/jonathan-liew www.independent.co.uk/author/jonathan-liew www.newstatesman.com/writers/325374 wrote an article is the New Statesman https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...ub-s-takeover-saudi-arabia-do-they-bear-moral basically he writes for anyone that would publish his ****
Mogren and Al Rumayyan - The CEO and Governor of PIF are not linked to these allegations. The owner and directors test is in respect of them. They are responsible for PIF and it is they who will be running the club. Can we please just stop believing every sensation list article that appears. The World Trade Organisation has allegedly linked BeoutQ to the Saudi Royal Family. The Saudi Family is huge. It does not matter one bit what the WTO find. They cannot link the allegations to the two most important people in this deal. The Saudis have closed the station down. They can compensate for any losses. This latest story has been published to sell papers. The PL will have known all of this at the start. It is not enough.
Except that the article isn’t written by him. It’s written by their chief sports writer. So it’s about as credible as it gets. Which, I concede, is not very.
PIF is a state owned investment fund and the takeover is being funded by that fund. If the piracy is proven to be linked to the Saudi Nation, then of course it matters in respect of the PL, as the new prospective owners are that same nation.
