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Should HRT go?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by RoadRunner, Sep 26, 2011.

  1. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Don't wish away any of the teams away... they all need to stay. If HRT and Virgin bugger off, it would only take the loss of one more team to have a sparce grid.

    If anything, the money should be distributed more evenly to try give these teams a chance to actually compete.
     
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  2. cosicave

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    Yep! That's another good reason Mephisto! All part of the entertainment, what?…

    As for the 13th grid slot, sufficient facilities need to be installed at every venue for this to be workable. But 13 teams rather than 12 makes it more likely that there will be even more slower cars trying to qualify. On top of that, where is the 13th team coming from? VW have lost interest and USF1 or whatever it pretended to be simply didn't exist as a going concern!

    F1 needs anyone willing to give it a punt who can get within the required 107% of the fastest car. It really is that simple.
     
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  3. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't Dave Richards and Prodrive looking at taking that 13th spot last year?
     
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  4. BrightLampShade

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    They need to be backed by someone with technical or financial clout (obviously). Team Google, Facebook racing, VW, BMW, that sort of thing to come in and get to at least the midfield quickly. As things stand nothing obvious is in the news.
     
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  5. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Yes, although the year before last if I remember correctly.
    Unfortunately they were eschewed in favour of the non-existent team I've mentioned above, fronted by an American full of male cow who Bernie did not check out sufficiently, but simply hoped would help promote interest over the pond, together with encouraging them to get serious about a US Grand Prix. Dave Richards was seething and felt that he'd been personally snubbed. Since then, economics have probably made him thankful that the door was closed in his face!

    And who can blame him? - He's found far more reasonable, more meaningful opportunities elsewhere…
     
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  6. Kyle?

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    What about those serbs? Can't remember the name, but they had a masterplan already in place, a car waiting in the wings, and some serious backing. Why did HRT get picked ahead of them, and why didn't they get USF1's slot?

    As for HRT, the blame lies squarely with Colin Kolles. He's proved time and again that he can't manage an F1 team. hell, he can't manage a motorsport team in general.
     
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    Actually that is a very good point In F1 points mean prizes and if you ain't got a chance of scoring a point then you ain't gonna get any prizes.

    The prize in this case is money of course.
     
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  8. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Bernie was stomping all over USF1 the moment that they were announced. What potential investors were going to commit to it when Bernie was declaring it's death before it even began? If he knew that they couldn't make it, he shouldn't have given them the spot. As for his motivation an line of thought on that... your guess is as good as mine.
     
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  9. mephistopheles

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    some may say he couldn't manage a w**k or run a bath, or an orgy in a brothel or a piss up in a brewery or he is just ****. what is it the spanish always say,,, manana, manana its always bloody manana with the spanish init.
     
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  10. Kyle?

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    <laugh> Have you been drinking?
     
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  11. mephistopheles

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    I've tasted a couple yes :)
     
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  12. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    you mean the serbs whos main day job was producing dodgy weapons for dodgy people?
     
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  13. North North Watford

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    They finished ahead of a team without a fuel tank? <party>

    To me it's not about where they are now, it's how they move forward. It's clear to see that Virgin and Lotus have the infrastructure to do things one day. I can only see HRT ending in one of two ways: being sold to someone serious, or going the way of Super Aguri minus the stunners from Sato.
     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I think they've come the furthest tbh, they didn't even make testing, yet they're finishing, they've had funding issues from since it was campos meta (now they are non compus mentis), I doubt they are making money, seems they just wanna go racing, and isn't that the attitude you'd rather see, than win at all costs?
     
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  15. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    I agree, they are the essence of racing having a good time working with what they have to race in a elite sport. Not a corporate outfit who find 2nd place as not good enough and pile loads of money in yet moan the sport is too expensive!
     
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  16. TomTom94

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    But why couldn't they make testing? That's what you've got to consider. The whole "shake down the car in Q1" business cost everyone a lot of sympathy for them because it didn't put people in the mind of "well done them for getting on the grid at all", rather "I hope the car works and doesn't hurt someone" - it's certainly not what you'd expect considering they've had a year in the sport to get prepared and it's the 2010s.
     
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  17. SgtBhaji

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    Bring back Super Aguri!!! :D
     
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