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Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

Discussion in 'Watford' started by andytoprankin, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    A week into the relaxing of the rules for those of us fortunate enough to live in the green zone, but not in the red zones, and the public is saying by 60% to 40% that the government is handling matters well. Not surprisingly most of the 40% are in the red zone.
     
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    The French government should keep the unpopular Macron well away from tv screens.
     
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  3. oldfrenchhorn

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    I think that maybe you should look closer to home after the last disaster when Johnson went on TV. To lose 18% of support in one week takes some doing. Anyone know where he has been since he showed up for PMQ's?
     
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    Australia's call for an enquiry into the outbreak of the coronavirus has been met with the imposition of an 80% tariff on Australian barley to bully boy China. The whole world should take notice of these tactics from China, desperate to hide it's incompetence and secrecy which enabled the virus to spread freely around the world.

    Boris should cancel Huawei's involvement in any project in the UK.
     
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  5. oldfrenchhorn

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    The man in charge of NHS tech says its Apps lack credibility. '“We are losing goodwill and credibility because we keep doing non-compliant builds and launches. We have to do better" he says.

    There have been numerous reports about the tracking app being in trouble, in fact Sky news reported today that it would not work, and a different system as adopted in most of Europe would have made far more sense as it was tried and tested. Tonight Rabb was asked when it would be available across the country, and said he didn't know. His doctor tried to say that it was only part of the system, a lot of it would come via traditional methods; i.e. a doctor reporting an outbreak of measles or chickenpox in his area. Without the data from a reliable app the mystical R number is guesswork, no one has disputed that. With the UK hovering so close to going over 1.0, with some areas possibly already above it, I cannot see how one can start to relax the lockdown.
     
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    Not surprisingly Raab refused to go down that route tonight when asked about the Chinese reporting in the early days of the virus. Those who are attempting to move all the blame to another country, which may be right or wrong, are jumping the gun as the evidence is not there yet.
     
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    There is no doubt the Chinese covered up the seriousness and wasted valuable weeks by not notifying the WHO about the virus. The fact it had installed a puppet as head of the WHO did not help.
     
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    The British government should keep the unpopular Johnson well away from tv screens...
    And?
    What are you trying to say??
     
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    Oh i didn't realise that China installed the head of the WHO?
     
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  10. oldfrenchhorn

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    According to your government spokesman you are jumping the gun.
     
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    The difference is our leader and his government are extremely popular unlike the Macron boy and his battered bunch. Two years of riots have taken their toll in France. I expect the riots will return to the French streets very soon.
     
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    The UK has joined the other 100+ countries asking for an enquiry into China's mishandling of the virus.
     
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    Question it yes, but you are jumping to conclusions to deflect away from the dreadful policies of the UK. Just where is the leader of the country at this time of crisis?
     
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    You should take notice of other posters who are cheesed off with your constant anti UK government whinging <doh>
     
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    The usual non-answer SH. You tell us you want debate, then you need to look at the the evidence and have something to say about what is going wrong in the UK. I have made posts today about how schools in France have returned too early and have been closed. I am only allowed to talk about France? Your constant whinging about other countries will bring a response when others think you are wrong. Either put forward opinions and expect them to be questioned, or don't attempt to keep changing the subject.
     
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    It would be more to the point to concentrate our efforts on conquering the disease rather than wasting time on this. I dare say that there will be some sort of reckoning with China after all this is over but that can wait - it cannot be used as a distraction by Western governments from their bad handling of the situation. All Western governments were warned by about December 31st yet underestimated the situation until it actually caught up with them. Maybe Western countries need to analyse their supply chain relationship with China in future, because an epidemic of this kind coming from the biggest exporting nation on this planet was an accident waiting to happen. But is it their fault that they have become such an important player in the World economy ? Or is it more the fault of Western companies who have resourced their production there in search of cheaper labour costs ?
     
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    As the question was raised earlier, a piece has now appeared about EU funding.

    The leaders of France and Germany have proposed a European recovery fund worth €500bn (£447bn; $545bn) to help EU countries hit hardest by the coronavirus crisis.

    It would be in addition to a huge loan package worth €540bn set to be released through existing EU mechanisms from 1 June.

    The new fund still requires approval by all 27 member states to be launched.

    It was announced at a joint video conference by French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    Mr Macron said this aid would be made up of grants, not loans. And Mrs Merkel said the cost could be spread across future EU budgets.
     
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    Professor Jonathan Van-Tam says the UK "may have to learn to live" with the virus for months, if not "several years".

    That is a sobering thought, but as we have seen with something like aids there are drugs that will control it, but not eradicate it totally.
     
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    No, it was China's fault it suppressed evidence which wasted valuable time. This oppressive crooked socialist totalitarian regime has a lot to answer for.
     
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    27 December - Chinese authorities are told about a Sars-like disease by a doctor in a provincial hospital in Hubei province.
    30 December - The health commission in Wuhan notifies local hospitals of a "pneumonia of unclear cause", and asks them to report any related information of suspicious cases in the past week.
    31 December - Chinese officials confirm they are investigating 27 cases of viral pneumonia and dispatch a team of health experts to the region. Authorities say seven are in a critical condition yet no human-to-human transmission has been identified. The authorities alert the World Health Organization (WHO).

    Taken from the BBC Fact Check.
     
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