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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Remember most of the posts dont even make Ellers think! Erm.....we realised that along time ago!
     
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  2. peter1954qpr

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    Yeah but you would want him in your side
     
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  3. bobmid

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    I would have had him over Ned Zelic
     
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    I'd rather have had the egg...;)
     
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    Nissan in talks to build Renault models at Sunderland plant


    Nissan in talks to build Renault models at Sunderland plant Global overhaul set to include closure of Barcelona plant and 20% cut in production capacity Nissan’s Sunderland plant has the capacity to make the Kadjar and Captur as they sit on the same manufacturing system as its Qashqai and Juke vehicles
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    Nissan is in talks to shift production of two Renault models from Spain to its Sunderland plant, securing thousands of British manufacturing jobs and signalling the Japanese carmaker’s long-term commitment to the UK’s largest car factory.The Japanese and French groups are discussing moving production of the Renault Kadjar and Captur models as part of a global overhaul of operations to be announced this month, according to two people familiar with the talks.
    The future of Sunderland had been thrown into doubt following Britain's vote to leave the EU, with Nissan warning that tariffs with Europe would put the model of exporting from the UK “in jeopardy”. The Japanese carmaker is preparing to cut a fifth of its global production capacity and reshuffle its manufacturing operations to stem a profit drain that has been accelerated by the coronavirus crisis, according to three people familiar with the matter.
    Nissan and Renault declined to comment.
    The new strategy under Nissan chief executive Makoto Uchida aims to draw a line under a tumultuous period that involved the company being beset by boardroom infighting, the collapse of its profits and the deterioration of its relationship with alliance partner Renault.A sensible exchange of vehicle production with Renault, which is under discussion in Europe, would signal a healing in the partnership that was at one time the world’s largest carmaking alliance.Morale within the Japanese group remains low, however.
    On Thursday, Nissan told staff that its US president José Luis Valls had resigned from the company, according to an internal document seen by the Financial Times, becoming the latest in a string of high-level departures.A major strategy outline from Mr Uchida on May 28 will detail several changes, including a restructuring of its struggling European business, according to people familiar with the discussions.
    Under the changes being discussed for the region, Nissan would close its Barcelona van plant, relocating production of its Navara pick-up truck to South Africa, while a replacement for the electric e-NV200 van would be made in France at Renault’s plant in Maubeuge. Recommended AnalysisRenault SARenault’s factory reopening brings a strange new normal In return, Renault would cease production of two popular models in Spain and move them to the UK.
    Nissan’s Sunderland plant has the capacity and ability to make the Kadjar and Captur as they sit on the same manufacturing system as its Qashqai and Juke vehicles made at the UK site.People close to the talks cautioned the discussions were ongoing, and the plan may change in the two weeks left before the announcement.
    Elements of Nissan’s strategy were first reported by Nikkei earlier on Thursday.Nissan, which employed about 5,000 people in Spain, has already temporarily laid off about 3,000 people in the wake of the factory shutdown in Europe caused by the virus.It has also shut its Sunderland plant and does not plan to reopen the site until June.
    Renault will announce a strategy update and cost-cutting plan at a similar time to Nissan, when it is expected to pare back some of its recognisable but older models, instead focusing on sport utility vehicles and electric cars.Nissan has invested more than £4bn in Sunderland, which has a capacity of half a million vehicles a year but produced 350,000 in 2019.
    The Japanese carmaker is determined to protect the site, and previously drew up plans to double down on the plant in the event of a no-deal Brexit, which would result in tariffs when exporting cars to Europe.
     
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  7. bobmid

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  8. Star of David Bardsley

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    Every MP that allows this to happen especially now should be fed to hungry pigs. So unnecessary and achieves nothing positive.

     
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  9. ELLERS

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    I see that Kranky women is getting slaughtered today.
    I wonder if those who supported her recently wishing our leaders were 'more like her' will regurgitate their words? :emoticon-0119-puke:

    Nicola Sturgeon is pulling the wool over our eyes
    The first minister’s grandstanding on Covid-19 masks the SNP’s dismal record on health and education in government
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nicola-sturgeon-is-pulling-the-wool-over-our-eyes-knv7069rq

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    In Scotland the proportion of deaths in care homes was 57%. In England 40%. Fact.

    'Be honest!' Nicola Sturgeon under fire over 'coronavirus cover-up' - furious backlash
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...onavirus-nike-event-secret-infected-delegates
     
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  10. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    I’d swap her for Boris in a heartbeat. Iain Dale’s stat is, at a guess, not terribly reliable but also not terribly useful as a pro or con. You could twist it as a positive if you wanted too.

    I’m guessing though this is really just all about deflecting blame from our dear leader in reality.
     
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    So are you implying those stories are wrong?
     
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    Not wrong necessarily. Overhyped with an agenda is probably closer to the mark.
     
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  13. ELLERS

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    You probably would.
     
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    No they are facts. She won't worm out of this.
     
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  15. Star of David Bardsley

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    Shocked that you’d swallow this so readily after stomping your feet for weeks over how it’s too soon to slaughter the government.
     
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  16. ELLERS

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    Actually I am not just talking about COVID, I am talking about her "Appalling record" as quoted today by a reporter on the news. That is a fact and they have all the figures to prove it, whereas you only have blind support?
    Funnily Watford you post so many things about the government which you say are true but once something gets said about the opposition... it's all lies. Funny that?
     
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  17. bobmid

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    I'm still waiting, in anticipation I may add, for Ellers to give his opinion on what mistakes our government have made. I dont understand why hes up in arms about scotland yet content with the English performance. Very bizarre
     
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    Lots of stats out there. You could argue that Scotland accounting for 1 in 17 deaths (official deaths anyway) compared to having well over 1/17 of the population suggests they’ve done something right, relatively speaking.
     
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    I don’t really consider the SNP as the opposition and I was pretty clear a few posts ago that these weren’t lies. My point was there’s a pretty blatant agenda to play up to the Tory middle England base by making everyone look as dreadful as this out of their depth UK government. You lap it up every time. As I said, personally I’d back her to handle the country better than the Tories choose to. I doubt you’d find many Scots who disagree.

    If it wasn’t going to condemn us to another lifetime of old English gammon voting in Tory majorities I’d be all for their independence.
     
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  20. bobmid

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    I wonder how many lies the government tell today. There should be a daily graph for this alone.
     
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