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Off Topic Corona virus - non football

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by SAFCDRUM, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    They dropped the international comparison chart after Starmer used it to batter them at PMQ's last week.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

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    I just found it and don't understand tbh.

    Haven't Scotland had around 3000 DEATHS?
     
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  3. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    God knows a lot though what’s funny though is if you watch world news the public in nearly every country all say their government has done a s hit job so it’s not just us that’s crap <ok>
     
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  4. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Aye it also said it would of prevented about 80% if the deaths if they acted earlier. 80% that Krankie in a different league to Boris.
     
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  5. Chunksafc

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    I've heard the same but can't see anything on the BBC website
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    So it would've meant less than 1000 deaths in the whole of Scotland ...

    ... I still don't get it, doesn't sound possible.
     
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  7. Wor Giacchi

    Wor Giacchi Well-Known Member

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    I lost an uncle to this a couple of weeks ago... he contracted it in a nursing home but was diagnosed and died in hospital. He can't be the only one.. it makes you wonder how many in the 'tested+died in hospital' statistics were actually nursing home residents.
     
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  8. Nads

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    Only 5million in Scotland mate, and far less population density.

    Its not a massive stretch to believe.
     
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  9. becs

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    Shielding has been extended to June 30th for everyone. It's on here, if you scroll down to the "Staying at home and shielding" section.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ng-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19
     
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  10. Flash Gordon

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    No doubt, it's impossible to have the perfect response to a crisis, no-one is perfect.

    But if you take stats alone, we have the 2nd highest death count in the whole of the world (the 4th per 1m population if you discount those with less than a million people).

    Yet in population size, we're only the 21st largest in the world - In population density we're 51st!

    In terms of average age of population, we're 44th (Spain, Italy and Germany are in the top 10 oldest).

    In terms of economy, we have the 6th best in the world, which in theory means more resources to tackle this.

    Whatever way you look at it, we're far higher up the league table than would be expected from the stats.

    Personally, I feel like the only 2 countries in the world that I'd least rather be in whilst they deal with this is the USA and Sweden.
     
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  11. RTB

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    They had a surge in new cases but looks like it has gone down now.
    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-l...ion-rate-drops-below-key-threshold/a-53398377
    18:02 The Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany's public health authority, said the infection rate has dipped under the threshold to 0.94 after three consecutive days above 1.0.
    An infection rate over 1.0 means more people are contracting the deadly pathogen than those who already have it. Authorities feared that a prolonged duration of an infection rate above the threshold would force them to re-impose lockdown measures.
    However, the RKI sought to downplay the weekend surge in infections, saying it would begin issuing a "smooth" rate of infection, sometimes called R number, to deal with fluctuations in reporting from local and state authorities.
    RKI Vice President Lars Schaade said the new figure would be "better suited to illustrate longer-term trends" in the outbreak within Germany's borders.
    "So far, we do not expect a renewed rising trend," the RKI said, referring to Tuesday's rate.
     
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  12. Wor Giacchi

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    Well put!

    This has been an absolute wet fart of an operation since the start. I'm no scientist, but neither am I a paranoid... yet it's been blatantly obvious to me that this thing was coming our way for a long while - as soon as it was mooted that it was transmissible before becoming symptomatic, combined with modern international travel - it was a certainty. I even met my other half off an aeroplane with a bottle of sanitiser back in February <laugh> I made her have a shower as soon as she got home too!!

    Our government led by the most prominent Brexiteer couldn't see it, and couldn't see the damage caused by not closing our 'newly reclaimed from the EU' borders early on in the crisis - Jesus, he nearly killed himself though negligence!

    Aside from the way they've dealt with the finances which is Tory home ground, the whole thing stinks of failure.
     
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  13. Flash Gordon

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    You've raised a good point there mate - I didn't even mention the fact that we're an Island. We had an opportunity that mainland Europe didn't.
     
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  14. Wor Giacchi

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    The fact that we have decided that France is OK to travel to without quarantining shows up the Brexit position too.. how come we're so keen to keep pally with Macron now?

    I voted against Brexit (although I appreciate what I voted for isn't perfect), but if there was ever a time in history to close the borders, then was the right time and we missed the boat. It turns out that us having sovereignty over our own decisions is a good thing if the one making the decisions isn't a grade A tit.

    One thing to note was that early on, our position and official announcements of it, seemed to mirror the US's more than Europe's - I don't think it's a coincidence that we seem to be both having a mare.
     
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  15. Nads

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    I seen some Boris blower earlier saying how ‘we’ve done better than Spain’ and using population density as the yardstick.

    Yeah, Spain is bigger, similar population, but to justify this they’d literally worked out the density as heads v total size of country.

    Spin in the extreme, you can drive for hours between towns in Spain, the population is packed into areas, just like here. There’s mountains, uninhabitable areas, it’s not comparable in that way, only via infection v population in the actual cities.

    They will bend anything to defend this idiot, disregarding that Spain and Italy warned the living **** out of us weeks before the hapless twat even bothered his arse to chair a Cobra meeting.

    He’s got a lot to answer to when we get through this. I’ll stop short of calling him responsible, just. And I’ll casually overlook that the stats they are trying to suppress suggest the actual numbers of deaths on our island (yep, we could have cut it off altogether...), are supposedly more than double what his band of imbecilic goons are trying to pass off.
     
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    Working through the critisism that I've read on here, I've got a couple points I'd like to make.

    Those who are calling the government incompetent. Are you criticising their decisions because you have alternative ideas, that you believe would work?

    And for those that are confused of what you can and can't do, to me it's pretty simple.

    There is a killer virus that has infected most areas of this country and the world.. Take precaution, go out for exercise, work at home, or in your workplace if safe.

    What is there not to get?
     
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  17. rooch 3

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    It’s the experts that always amaze me, you should of done this you should of done that they never open their f ucking yaps before it happens criticising twats.
     
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    "And for those that are confused of what you can and can't do, to me it's pretty simple.*


    I'm confused as to why I'm allowed to fly back to the UK on a crowded plane, without any checks whatsoever, yet can't go to my son's house ....

    .... but I can sit next to him, on a bus, without a mask or go to someone else's house if they're selling it.

    And what happens if my son is selling his house ...

    ... can I go then?
     
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  19. rooch 3

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    I think it all comes back to common sense do you want to give your lad the virus, no , don’t do it then.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    So if it's common sense why would the government allow people to go to strangers houses?

    A
     
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