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Another reckless display by Hamilton

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by colinsmith11, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. mephistopheles

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    If I don't like someone and I don't want to use a swear word I call them a James :)
     
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  2. BrightLampShade

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    For what its worth I don't think it was a reckless drive by Hamilton.
     
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  3. fevriul

    fevriul Well-Known Member

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    If he was half way up Lewis side, how come its the back wheel that gets hit and not the side pod. Personally I reckon Mclaren just told him to take the blame to take some heat off the anit LH brigade. Annd sorry but bollocks driving is driving , if you behind!! it your responsibility to avoid the crash , or does that only apply to LH??


    As for yesterday I missed that the drivers representative was Heinz Harald Frentzen. which explains who rosberg can cut a corner gain places and still not be penalised which is a joke, LH got penalised not allowing someone in front long enough before retaking them, which was the biggest load of bull plop I have ever seen.

    As for the opinions of Brundle/Jordan/Coulthard, to failed drivers and a failed owner, I wouldn't wipe my backside with their opinions Especially Coulthardor did you forget you he used to drive for??
     
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  4. mephistopheles

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    Are you wearing a tin foil hat? You don't even believe the bloke who was driving the car and then held his hands up and said it was my fault!!!!
     
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  5. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    oh, and fevirul, it isn't always the driver behind that's at fault, it's just assumed that it is and in the event of no witnesses or video replays of the incident blame is always apportioned thus, however when there is video evidence or eye witnesses to the accident blame will be apportioned where it should lie, with the driver at fault regardless of whether they are in front or behind. I know this because I luckily had wtnesses when some fool switched lanes and slammed their anchors on 5 meters in front of me at 60, and although i was the driver behind, he was adjudged to be in the wrong.
    Also comparing a road, where the purpose is to get from A to B safely, and a race circuit where the purpose is to go from A to A to A faster than everyone else is quite ludicrous. althogh if you do want to use that then Lewis is overtaking on the inside (dangerous driving), not looking around (undue care and attention) and didn't use his indicators. that's a ban right there.
     
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  6. fevriul

    fevriul Well-Known Member

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    No actually Shumacher was allowed to do a double move and had to be told by his team to let him pass, again if that had of been reversed, well immediate drive thru.

    Hamilton is the only driver in the history of F1 to be pulled up for get this blocking by moving across a track and having another driver follow him, as in the case of Jaime Alguersuari a couple of years ago. LH is the reason the double move rule was bought in. Although in the tide of LH hatred that spouted from the usual 606 idiots and the 3 morons on BBC everyone neglected to explain, how it is blocking when you move to one side, the other car follows you, and repeats that 3 times. Only in LH hatred land, can breaking the tow, by going onto the dirty side of the road and having another car follow you , constitute blocking! :huh:
     
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  7. cosicave

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    <laugh> Ha! Sorry fevrul, but you've just got to laugh at Miggs' superb response!
     
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  8. fevriul

    fevriul Well-Known Member

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    The same bloke who made an Ali G comment , that every under the age of 100 got, but was pilloried as if he just shot a baby? Whe maladinardo takes his car off deliberately at Monza in full view of the cameras and its still judged as his fault? pull the other one its got bells on!

    OK simple question of all the incidents can you point to one and say , it was NOT HIS FAULT
     
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  9. fevriul

    fevriul Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, I didn't use them on my driving test while going round a sationary bus, and still got passed :p
     
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  10. mephistopheles

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    Actually the rule about 2 moves was brought in, in the early 90's and it was because of Michael Schumacher who used to chop across the front of other cars and weave all over the track at the start of the race in an attempt to maintain position.

    You really don't know much about F1 do you?
     
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  11. fevriul

    fevriul Well-Known Member

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    Where as Kumi , speed up, caused a crash and left the scene without reporting an accident, thats Jail time!
     
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  12. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Fevirul, you should go read your posts after Canada, they make interesting reading considering your juxtaposition on this thread. And you're reminding me too much of PMC to be taken at all seriously.
     
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  13. fevriul

    fevriul Well-Known Member

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    Shows how much you know about F1, which driver was it who asked for this rule in the first place??? LOL

    The LH / Algarshari incident is when it was renforced, and a would be penalised with a stop go, my bad!

    Oh yeah beeing watching F1 for 25 years and while I might not no each regulation off the back of my hand, I have still yet to have some one explain to me, how following someone's tow repeatedly and matching their change of direction , counts as BLOCKING!
     
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  14. fevriul

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    I judge incidents on merit, I'ma fan of LH, sometimes, he gets things wrong and get nailed for it, thats life, but he gets penalised, yet rosberg etc pull the same crap and get nothing. The shumacher blocking in monza was an joke, you telling me, if that had of been hamilton he would not have been given a drive thru??
     
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  15. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Really, I could've sworn out of the 2 of them it was Pastor that got the grid penalty, at spa (i'm guessing that's what you mean), not Lewis. I think the rays have got you, are yuou sure your hat is tinfoil and not aluminium?
     
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  16. chrispa76

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    I can't believe this discussion.

    @fevriul
    Why do you still defend him when everyone else INCLUDING himself say it was his fault with Kobayashi?

    It was also his own fault yesterday (it certainly wasn't Massas fault). I personally think that a penalty was too much, but I only blame the rules, I think they have become too strict. I agree that both MSC and Rosberg was worse(and im a schumi fan!), though they are all racing incidents for me, but that's how the rules are written unfortunately. Don't blame the stewards, blame the rulebook they follow.
     
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  17. allsaintchris.

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    mephistopheles is right. It was Scheuy's tactics in the 90's that brought about these sets of rules about what is and isn't allowed. The rules may have been refined further since, but the buck stops at Schuey!
     
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  18. mephistopheles

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    Thank you cosi now I don't have to reply..
     
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  19. colinsmith11

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    You can see very clearly in the video that it is Lewis' sidepod Kamui made contact with, but since the car was turning left already the balance of the car made it look a big spin, this is the laws of physics!!!!

    And your wrong, because RACING is completely different to casual driving so NO COMPARISON can be made! Yes it is both of their responsibility not too crash but Kamui has to race, no top driver just lets someone past without any resistance unless they have a problem or are told to by the team! If Lewis had not swerved over then there would have been no problem!

    Nico was forced wide, it was that or have a crash, he bailed out and came in the same place, the stewards said this is why no penalty was issued!


    And DC/Brundle and Jordan's opinions have MUCH MORE credibility than any of ours! They have raced in F1 and Eddie has run a team! I wouldnt call 13 race wins and 2nd to Schumi a failure by the way!!!

    You obviously are a die-hard Lewis fan and cant accpet he is having a dismal season! I am a Vettel/Button fan and I admit hwen they make mistakes - it wasd Vettel's fault in Canada or maybe you would say its Button fault for chasing him down! As when driving on the road you should not race people as this can be dangerous!

    Get real mate.
     
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  20. Delete Me

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    Lol if I was being overtaken by a faster car while I was in the slower lane on the motorway and he then dives back in without checking his mirrors and crashes into me because he thought his "turbo charger" gave him the distance.

    Who do you think the police and insurance companies will side with?

    So what's that called? common sense...
     
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