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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by AmalCarb, Jan 24, 2020.

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  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    If you’re stockpiling hundreds of millions of them, then the UK manufacturing option goes out the window, as you’d need to buy them as cheaply as possible.
     
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    Ha ha! It's good for the gardens. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  3. tigerscanada

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    Because it's a risk that is very pricey, and few will pay for it, and often an "exclusion" in insurance policies, Just like being struck by lightning, or being a fighter pilot, or an F1 driver.
    Insurance companies covering inventory/life expectancy of said inventory will rate premiums accordingly. Just-in-time strategies come into play here.
    Who makes the decisions ? Governments ? Manufacturers ? Middle-men ? end-suppliers ? Hospitals ?
     
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  4. look_back_in_amber

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    It appears that the number of deaths due to heart failure and cancer have plummeted to an all time low, basically because everybody seemingly dies from Covid-19...

    Alway look for the positives...
     
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  5. Amin Yapusi

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    There would be how many tens or hundreds of billions of pounds of PPE sitting in a warehouse, what, the size of London? Maybe enough to last 12 weeks. All expiring. In order to cope with an unprecedented crisis like this.

    This isn’t a problem unique to the U.K. Every single country in the world has the very same problem. Even China ran out and couldn’t make it fast enough, and they are the biggest manufacturer for it all.
     
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    I said stockpile until UK production not as well as
     
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    Still twice as many people dying whatever it gets recorded as
     
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  8. dennisboothstash

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    I was more talking about risk to the insurers actually, but I see what you’ve said covers both for different reasons.
    Govt should make the decision, it’s their risk register. They obviously did, their decision apparently being to cross their fingers.
    Not one I agree with
     
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  9. dennisboothstash

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    Give up then eh?
    Trident is a fairly costly insurance policy isn’t it, but we manage to pay for that ok
     
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  10. Amin Yapusi

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    Trident could probably clear the world of coronavirus
     
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  11. tigerscanada

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    Ask John Lennon.

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  12. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    50 million is one weeks supply, that’s not stockpiling, to cover something like this happening again you’d need a minimum three month supply, now you’re on 1,300 weeks stock.
     
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    Well since a pandemic was identified by the Government as the biggest risk the country could face - I would say YES. If (as it is widely believed) they save thousands of lives - I would say YES. Isn't it what Germany (for example) did? - i.e have better stocks of PPE on the off-chance of a pandemic?
     
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    And had their own large scale testing labs too, which helped
     
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    Simple fact is that PPE will never be able to be manufactured in the Uk unless

    A - people ) companies accept a much higher price

    B - the PPE is made at a loss and the government supports the business making it and covers the loss

    Cheap items just can't be mass produced in the UK at the same price as china etc
     
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    In addition to the actual amount of PPE available didn't the government cite problems with the distribution of supplies? I'm not conversant with the current arrangements but, prior to 2010, we did have regional supply centres (ours was at Normanton) - if that network has since been dismantled then distribution problems would be inevitable.
     
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    I can see why you think that, but actually you’re wrong. Quality reusable is, I know for a fact, cheaper than disposable for example.
    Even if it wasn’t, which it is, the Govt should have stood the cost of keeping it manufactured in UK
     
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    It's a lot less costly exercise than not having provisions .
    Maybe have the nhs supplied from these shores with capability of ramping up in a crisis .
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    Increased provisions to ramp up production in a crisis is exactly what I think should and will happen.
     
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    Quality reusable may be cheaper than disposal, but you can still manufacture the quality reusable much cheaper outside the UK
     
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