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Off Topic Corona virus - non football

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by SAFCDRUM, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I once had a plane trip stuck next to a right mental case.

    He tried to persuade me that there's a secret government department that starts endless wild conspiracy theories ...

    ... to distract people from the real conspiracies <doh>

    I had to threaten him to shut him up.
     
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  2. Flash Gordon

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    A bit harsh of you to have a go in hindsight Hank when this is what you were saying at the time:


     
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  3. Flash Gordon

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    Makes perfect sense. David Icke runs the department. Bang on about Lizard people to make all conspiracies look ridiculous so no one will believe it when we eventually get on to the fact that Mars is being colonised and once they elite are safe, they will melt the ice caps and drown everyone else.
     
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    The Stranglers keyboard player dies at 71 from Covid-19

    The Stranglers keyboard player Dave Greenfield has died at the age of 71 after testing positive for Covid-19.
    Greenfield died on Sunday having contracted the virus after a prolonged stay in hospital for heart problems.


    RIP <rose>

     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Very sad news.

    A very talented musician and a really nice man.

    RIP Dave ....
     
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  6. DH4

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    Nobody hates the Neoliberal agenda of making the "state" smaller and private enterprise taking up the slack more than myself but these politicians have absolutely nothing to gain by essentially shutting down the economy (and therefore the tax they receive from it). We are at the moment living in a country that is a "socialist" state, private hospitals have been commandeered by the NHS, and the state is subsidising the incomes of millions upon millions. The government will be absolutely desperate for this to end and us plebs to pay for it all through taxation in my opinion and will, if anything go back too early. Just as they reacted to it too late.
     
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  7. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    You are making the mistake of thinking national politicians and governments have any say in the matter, they are all reading off the same script all over the world, all of them fell right into line on the orders of unelected global organisations. You could see early on that Boris and Trump correctly were not making a big deal of it, it is after all only a 0.1% mortality rate virus, just like the flu, but the media fear campaign created the public pressure which wisened them up to the situation and they got on board.

    They are nothing but temporary puppets with pseudo power, they cant change the system from within, their main purpose is to create the illusion of change every few years, they are a focal point and take the brunt of the publics inevitable anger, then another leader or party is voted in which makes it look like a fresh start that we all agreed on in a democracy when in reality, the system stays the same and agendas stay the same. 90% of people will be utterly unaffected by elections, only the top and bottom 5% in society are ever affected and even then its only slightly, with labour the bottom 5% will be slightly better off and with the Tories the top 5% will be slightly better off.

    This is the global system, global banking, global media, global governance, and its flexing its muscles.
     
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  8. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    There is nothing spontaneous about any of this, its all been planned well in advance, thinks tanks, papers et al.

    All the new buzzwords and terms didnt just pop out of thin air in 2020, theyve been ready to go for a long time, and they are being drummed into the masses all over the world.

     
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  9. Kittenmittons

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    Aaaaand we have a conspiracy theorist.

    Tell me, Benoit, if they have the muscle to do all of this, why did they not get Hillary elected in 2016? Why did they allow the Brexit vote? Why did they introduce a virus that is hurting the likes of Boeing, Virgin etc?

    Or was Branson, the billionaire transport infrastructure owner, banned from the meetings of the global elite?
     
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  11. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Why would they want Hillary elected? Trump is their wet dream, the most polarising president in history, left right, divide and conquer, everyone is so invested in being against him or for him, he gets more people playing the game. Hes perfect, and he will get another 4 years, you can be sure of that.

    Ultimately the individual taking the temporary national leader role isnt that important for the global system, anyone who gets to that stage is well in the fold and knows the score.
     
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  12. Kittenmittons

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    But isn't Hillary part of them?
     
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    I have one mate who insists the virus is to get rid of all the older people, I asked him why make a vaccine for the flu then. Silence<laugh>
     
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    On the flip side you could be as bonkers as Trump.
     
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    I think you might be right that Trump will get re-elected even if he messes the Coronvirus response even more than he has, cos he will just blame China etc.

    Where he will have had a lasting effect internally in the US, is in appointing judges which will impact America in so many ways. Externally with him pulling out of so many countries or global organisations China and Russia will fill the vacuum..thus will also have a lasting effect for years to come.
     
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  16. Flash Gordon

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    Did you consider that the WHO makes these kind of arguments all the time and that the "new normal" was just a phrase that stuck like what so often happens in language?
     
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  17. Flash Gordon

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    Are Sweden outside of the global system?

    Did the "Global powers" make New Zealand and America have vastly different responses and death tolls just to give us the illusion of choice?

    What benefit are they getting out of this?
     
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  18. Kittenmittons

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    Ultimately, what conspiracy theorists are really all about is convenience. They know things are real, deep down, but they are so reluctant to accept responsibility for their own fate, or their decisions, that they'd rather blame a global cabal of mythical higher powers because it's easier than accepting that you have a great deal of individual responsibility for your path in life.

    As @Flash Gordon says, there are so many inconsistencies that can't be explained. Why are 'global media' laying off employees and suffering financially (not even now, over the last decade) when they have such power to control minds and habits? Why do they allow the rise of the 'truther' style conspiracy theorist media instead of just shutting them down at source, having the perpetrators killed and disposed of? Why are the reactions of countries - and even states within countries - completely different to quite extreme degrees that suggest that nothing has been universally agreed by a higher power? How are banks benefiting from a shutdown of the global economy and a reset of humanity's priorities?

    The usual answers to this are to say that we're naive, and the fact that every country has approached this differently is simply a cover for the NWO or whoever. Absolute cop out from people who have no explanation and don't want to cut their own hair.
     
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  19. old lads fan

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    Who benefits from this new world we are entering, most economies will take years to recover some of the losses and most people will never return to the life we knew just a few short months ago.
    For you to suggest this is some great plan that has been dreamt up by unelected global organisations is moronic, the only big global organisations that seem to be benefitting is Pharma and the likes of Telecoms services and Amazon, although in the case of Pharma, Governments will insist that any cures and treatments for this virus will be available and affordable to the masses.
     
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  20. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    The benefits for those behind this are not immediately apparent or tangible looking at it in isolation, you need to see the bigger picture, the long game, what this is a big step towards.

    Legitimate non mainstream videos and information are extremely hard to find now, they've been purged and buried, many channels deleted. Type flat earth or 9/11 conspiracy into YouTube and you will get page after page of verified content promoting the opposite of what you are looking for, if you eventually find something non mainstream, look at the recommended next videos and see that there is nothing remotely related. Those days are gone, you need to know specific channels now or you would never come across them, youtube practically broke their algorithm implementing this censorship.

    Just shows your lack of knowledge really that you are unaware how the Internet has been changing in the last few years.

    And if you don't know how the money printers benefit from financial crashes you have a lot to learn.
     
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