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Cell phones and in-plane credit card phones played a major role during and after the attack, starting with hijacked passengers who called family or notified the authorities about what was happening. Passengers and crew who made calls include: Sandra Bradshaw, Todd Beamer, Tom Burnett, Mark Bingham, Peter Hanson, Jeremy Glick, Barbara K. Olson, Renee May, Madeline Amy Sweeney, Betty Ong, Robert Fangman, Brian David Sweeney, and Ed Felt. Innocent occupants aboard United Airlines Flight 93 were able to assess their situation based on these conversations and plan a revolt that resulted in the aircraft crashing. According to the commission staff: "Their actions saved the lives of countless others, and may have saved either the U.S. Capitol or the White House from destruction."[4]

According to the 9/11 Commission Report, 13 passengers from Flight 93 made a total of over 30 calls to both family and emergency personnel (twenty-two confirmed air phone calls, two confirmed cell phone and eight not specified in the report). Brenda Raney, Verizon Wireless spokesperson, said that Flight 93 was supported by several cell sites.[5] There were reportedly three phone calls from Flight 11, five from Flight 175, and three calls from Flight 77. Two calls from these flights were recorded, placed by flight attendants: Betty Ong on Flight 11 and CeeCee Lyles on Flight 93.[6]

Alexa Graf, an AT&T spokesperson, said it was almost a fluke that the calls reached their destinations.[5] Marvin Sirbu, professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University said on September 14, 2001, that "The fact of the matter is that cell phones can work in almost all phases of a commercial flight."[7] Other industry experts said that it is possible to use cell phones with varying degrees of success during the ascent and descent of commercial airline flights.[7]

After each of the hijacked aircraft struck the World Trade Center, people inside the towers made calls to family and loved ones; for the victims, this was their last communication. Other callers directed their pleas for help to 9-1-1. Over nine hours of the 9-1-1 calls were eventually released after petitioning by The New York Times and families of the WTC victims. In 2001, U.S. cell phones did not yet have the photography capabilities that became widespread by the mid-2000s

 

And I agreed

 

If you step back from the horror and carnage and look at it dispassionately; as a tactic employed by one warring faction against another; then you have to accept that it was incredibly well organised, coordinated and executed.

But why is it so implausible to think that this was wholly down to members of a completely commited fanatical organisation with a religious ideology in which martyrdom is rewarded in the afterlife?

 

I'll help you by the looks of things even though I don't need to say much for the rise of the pitchfork brigade

Boxes little, little boxes, little boxes made of ticky tack

 

I haven’t claimed anything I can’t back up on the phone stuff, like I’ve said it’s easy enough to find and read the stuff if you want to. I’m not going to go and find it for you. (Not least because it’s ****ing dull reading, looking at the differences in different phone systems of the 90s/00s )

And if your whole point on analog is just that there might be another reason for the calls working, not that the calls didn’t happen, then the conversation is entirely academic and makes no difference whatsoever to the overall point. Aka a waste of time.

 

I know all that. It tells me nothing that I don't already know. I'm not even referring to said 9/11. I'm only asking for data, that can confirm that analogue can reach certain parameters, and not just because someone says so.

 

Dude I've been where you are...... I'm not gonna go over the same ground again.

Its done and the shows back on the road.... Minus some of our freedoms

 

I know you can't back up the phone stuff, why do you think I asked the question

Have we got 900 pages yet?

Edit; btw I've never ever suggested the calls didn't happen, I'm merely interested in the technology.

 

Just take his word for it

 

I'm off now you got 900 up I'll come back 2 spike up the 1000 mark

 

Learn to read bro.

 

Cheers bro




Thanks guise



@Suckmyklopp

 

We can discuss it again at a later date, probably around the 1,000 page mark

 

Not a problem........I'll stock up on the information ammunition and will come out all guns blazing saddles style.

 

You've all got 99 pages to prepare for the next round.

And don't let me down on the analogue data afctw.

 

He'll still not give you what influenced him.

Maybe he's shy

 

By “data” what are you looking for? Just look through some tech sites and they’ll explain all about the different types of towers, signals and ranges etc. It’s boring ****ing reading, not entirely sure why you’d want to!

 

Noticed you haven’t added anything whatsoever, no responses to anything that shows how stupid your ideas are, just the usual aberdude inferiority complex. Can’t say I expected anything more from you tbh.

 

Anyone remember these...I bet Fosse does



Those were the days, could get a signal anywhere in the world.

 

Looks like Basher phone

Morning guise