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  1. should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

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  2. let the bodies stack high

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  3. lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

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  1. pieguts

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    ^^^^ this. Feasts on anything crackpots like Icke say, but the rest of the world are sheep <doh>
     
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  2. Tobes

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    There’s always a complete lack of critical thinking with these conspiracy theories. As they invariably merely either avoid or skirt round the gaping holes in their logic of why their chosen conspiracy would have been a great choice for those who were supposedly behind it, and how they maintained the silence of the hundreds or thousands who’d have had to have formed part of it.
     
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  3. brb

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    I've read some of that, not all.

    Firstly I'll start by saying, I don't support or go for conspiracy theories. The only reason I read some of your comment was because, you mentioned and I'm aware of the reasoning behind analog versus digital, back then. I'm open minded on that theory and have not as of yet, dismissed or supported it.

    However, I have not seen any technical description, explaining to me why, analog was able to carry those calls. So I ask, are you able to support that claim, as you've used it as part of your response.

    Not trying to be funny here btw. It's just I've heard the analog theory, but never seen anything to support it from a technical perspective.
     
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    Never mind dude..... Its totally up to you what you see.
     
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    You saying this conversation didn't happen just because someone posted on YouTube..... Amongst many untruths on YouTube you will also find.... Some that is truth.... Of course only yourself should make the decisions which got validity and what hasn't.
     
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    And what exactly have you debunked fella.
     
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    I didn't say that don't try elevating of your good self hey, you like I don't matter in this game.

    This is the top of the tree doing **** for they're gain not ours...... These people make Mexican cartels look like balloon sellers by the way many in high power wouldn't cross them
     
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    I’m saying it’s of absolutely no relevance to the fact that the London bombings were carried out by Islamic extremists.
     
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  9. brb

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    aberdudes off on one this morning <laugh>

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    There is a lot of anecdotal evidence for mobiles being used at height with a quick google. There’s also for example an accident investigation in California into a crash where it was determined the pilot was speaking to his wife from 15000ft which is above the supposed highest altitude listed by conspiracy theories. And there’s also a study done in 2003 into the use of mobiles on planes which highlighted that phones were in use during flight.

    In relation to the actual technological difference if you google it you’ll find a couple of tech forums where some nerds go into great detail about the differences!

    I can’t be arsed with going and listing a load of website links as those who believe in conspiracies will ignore evidence that doesn’t back their view up. It’s all quite easy to find and if people genuinely want to find the truth rather than find a conspiracy they can go and check my claims easily enough.
     
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    Might be wrong, but I’m sure I read that only 2 calls from United 93 came from cell phones. The rest came from the plane phones.
     
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    For what it's worth, I don't believe the 911 conspiracy theories, personally... and I'm not a big fan of governments as you may have gathered <laugh>

    The seeds of doubt were sewn early, from watching The Prisoner in the 60s with my old man, to reading 1984 and Animal Farm at O Level and A Level. Also studied a lot of history and one thing becomes clear, the rich and the powerful are always happy to sacrifice human lives for their own gain.

    However, the idea that the US government or some powerful secret right wing zionist cartel planned and executed that carnage just to blame it on Muslim extremists is just a stretch too far for me. The US just didn't need to go to such lengths to justify their previous and subsequent actions in the middle-east and their support of Israel. They already had their boogerman in bin Laden and a populace distinctly ignorant of, or just blind to, the underlying issues in that region. The well orchestrated atmosphere of fear and loathing has ensured a mandate for arguably the least intelligent succession of leadership (with the odd exception) the world has seen in my lifetime.

    Rant over <laugh>
     
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    ok, let me start again <laugh>

    As I've said I don't support the conspiracy theories. I think I've got enough brains cells in my tiny little head, to understand a certain amount of technical data.

    What I didn't tell you in my last response is I have looked for the data. I've seen the suggestions, but I've never seen the data supporting it. Probably because I can't be asked too try to hard.

    I suppose my point is you claimed something you can't support <whistle>

    So much so, the analogue factor could be made up to, and there is a perfectly reasonable explanation that the calls were made other than the reason you've given. Why, do I say that, because as I've said, I've seen no technical data supporting it.
     
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    Aberdude will be a long in a minute to tell you that’s because of an FBI coverup due to clarifications on the calls during a second report on phone calls from the plane. He’ll totally ignore the fact that since it was entirely possible for any of the passengers to use the plane phones it makes absolutely no sense to have made up stories about mobile phone calls.
     
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    Ultimately arguing the toss over the technical aspects avoids the entire ****ing point though.

    If that entire event was somehow staged, then why and for what purpose would they have set up the dozens of calls and would it have not occurred to them that the tech wouldn’t allow it, if the tech wasn’t capable? It’s just yet another example of the complete lack of holistic thinking in these crank theories, they’re expecting people to believe that 9/11 was some elaborate staged event that would have needed thousands of people involved, and yet they’re also expecting people to believe that they’d make fundamental mistakes by setting up pointless calls. It’s abject nonsense.
     
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    Who organised these people and was mossad involved.... Let's just except it happened and move along with nothing to see here again attitude.

    Many many coincidences my friend... And you is entitled to an opinion of course.
     
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    Again that's your opinion and an entiled one.
     
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  18. brb

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    and were those calls made by transmitter, satellite, UHF, VHF....anything, just any tad to support it :emoticon-0138-think

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    ... I made that clear in the first sentence <cheers>
     
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  20. brb

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    going for 900 pages today guise :bandit:
     
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