Even as a Tory I always want a strong opposition but even now Labour isn't one... better than Corbyn and his motley crew but shadow cabinet is weak.
Correct, if you look at the number of cases of bigotry against the number of membership, percentage wise the Torys is massively higher.
It is about Labour and I don’t doubt there are anti-semites in Labour. I just wish you’d be so passionate about the similar issues in your own party.
When there is an investigation and results, we can. However Let's not deflect from what is going on in Labour. I don't get your argument here? The story is about Labour.
The point is pretty clear. We don’t have a Tory investigation because Tories simply don’t give a **** and largely condone similar issues within their party. There’s a huge irony to the Mail and right wingers generally jumping up and down over left wing racism of any sort.
Theres **** all reason to have a report into the Tory party, as recent history has proven they just don’t get published and nobody, especially their own supporters and big parts media don’t care
2 points. firstly If the Tories have missed behaved trust me there are plenty of media/press reporters that would jump on it. secondly, if you don't trust this story, I can post Guardian/Times/Independent/Jewish time/BBC/CNN/Telegraph and the rest. You need to accept this Watford because 2222 has happened and they have proof of cover-ups going to the top. If you want to be an ostrich (which I was called yesterday) then so be it. You won't be able to defend the indefensible.
Again, as I said, there is undoubtedly a ****load of anti-semitism within Labour just as there is in the country as a whole so no ostriching from me. The Tories don’t just “misbehave”. They make it a policy as it appeals to their base.
When the Tories have a problem on this scale come back and debate it ... until then this story has come from an ex-senior member of the Labour party. Furthermore, the amount of stories out there about this is shocking. I have heard of the saying 'no smoke without fire' but this is like one of those bush fires in Australia. No defense. When I mentioned this a while back I was ridiculed. There won't be any ridicule now.
They’ve had a problem on this scale forever. They’re very open about it. It’s not coincidence that thousands of “Britain First” members joined the party recently.
No not at all Ellers and that's where myself any yourself hugely are different. I can admit and see the errors of certain parties whereas you defend, evade and ignore. Labour have been piss poor over recent years, the proof is there for all to see. The tories are being worse than that. Compare anti semitism to 30,000 plus deaths.
? If you are going to debate stick to the argument instead of going off on a tangent. We are discussing Labour and the problems they have had and you are trying to turn this into deaths through Coronavirus? There is already a thread for that. Stick to the argument or don't post.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ead-tory-inquiry-into-discrimination-in-party Could have been an enquiry but na **** that
I can post whatever I like, when I like. I am comparing those problems to those of other parties and trying to reach a conclusion. Yes labour have had a problem within their party with antisemitism. The leader at the time JC had never ever said anything antisemitic but didnt do enough to root it out, the media absolutely hounded him for this and the electorate voted accordingly. See how we differ.
I really cannot believe that post from Watford? Seriously weird. He normally says that Tories are all old gammons...now they are all Tommy fella's. The last tory meeting I was at was full of old tea drinking pensioners.
