Off Topic SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

But people are still going to do them. I think you're looking for things to have a go about.

 

They are NOT essential and neither are any other takeaway outlets. People are certainly NOT keeping to the social distancing rule whilst queuing outside the local chippy or takeaway.

 

McDonalds are doing deliveries only, Dominos are doing deliveries only, my local chippy observes impeccable social distancing. Many bits of the NHS have probably welcomed contributions from the takeaway industry over the last few weeks. As for being NOT (sic) essential they are pretty important to the folk who work there and to the lads doing the deliveries.

I have observed that a lot of people who moan about this or that being open when they think they shouldn't be are retired folk with a pension or other secure income who aren't really inconvenienced very much by lockdown.

 

When the Mail Online are calling you a liar, then you're probably a liar!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...00-000-daily-Covid-tests-target-PR-stunt.html

 

Well for your information i am not retired and why would been on a secured income have anything to do with it?

Regarding those not on a secured income, they would surely be better off buying food to cook at home rather than getting takeaways.

My point was aimed at the ones NOT just delivering, queues outside my local chippy are mad, they should either adhere to the distancing or be closed down, simple as that.

Every business that is closed are pretty important to the folk that work at them, but it doesn't mean it's ok.

This country should have had full lockdown from the start and they shouldn't be relaxing anything next week.

 

I must admit, I've missed their six for a quid bread cakes.

 

So aim at those, not the ones who are just delivering. Don't know what you mean by 'full' lockdown.

 

Still not essential for takeaway or fast food. Regarding full lockdown if you don't know there is not much point in explaining as your head must have been buried in the sand for a few weeks.

 

British politicians and medical advisers say we are in full lockdown now. But we are less restricted than, say, France who are also in full lockdown. There is no definition of full lockdown. We are locked down as much as the govt thinks we need to be. If you think that's not enough fair enough, I disagree. I don't see a problem with companies like McDonalds or local pubs offering a food delivery service that is well managed and compliant with whatever rules/guidelines are in place.

 

Was worried when I set off that running out of proper gaffer tape and having to use that clear stuff would make it dangerous.
Stopped for refreshments on the way home though and it was much better with that case gone...

 

I think they can be criticised for delays in starting everything, but last couple of weeks has seen a massive increase in testing and if it carries on growing at the rate it has (yeah it’s an if, I know) then it must massively help

 

It’s actually quite high considering the low bar for symptoms IMHO.
Every key worker, another wide range, who has coughed will be there...which is a good thing I think

 

100,000 a day would still mean nearly 2 years to test everyone by the way
That’s not including retests for people who were cleared last week but get a cough again next week
100,000 can’t be the target. It’s just a step there surely?

 

We ain't on lockdown it's just advice on distancing .
I travel across Hull to work at 2pm and it is a long way of lockdown .
I was really surprised just how busy it was this week !

 

It’s great the testing is finally ramping up and working up towards where it needs to be. But I do have issue with the dodgy maths of including the 40k tests posted out today in the “tests done”. It’s not necessary, it’s just so they can say they’ve hit an arbitrary target and I think the manipulation detracts from the good job done by people who must’ve been working round the clock to scale up. The government have got history of dodgy maths with promised numbers of new nurses before all of this, and it just erodes their credibility at a time when they need to be credible.

 

The lying Tory ****s! No surprise, it was just a question of how they would fiddle it.

I went for a test at Humber Bridge today. I had no symptoms but because gov had opened up to any essential workers (regardless of whether symptomatic), I was keen to trial the whole testing procedure before we started offering it to staff.
Online system was easy, I had the offer of pretty much any time slot the next day. I assumed if it was that easy and govt were trying to ramp up the tests, there had to be massive queues at the site. On the contrary. Very well organised and very sparse. I was met by 'steward like' masked volunteers and signs making it very clear you don't open windows. I thought I was at Knowsley Safari Park..Volunteers were shouting instructions through the closed window, but I'm half deaf, so couldn't hear! Bizarrely they seemed to have developed their very own sign language for instructions, but only they will ever understand. I don't take in directions very well but the coned course allowed me to meander to and fro through the car park. I was the only car in that , obviously set up for long queues. Eventually I reached a cabin where I collected a self testing kit. Which was quite an unexpected relief, as I wasn't looking forward to anyone shoving a swab up my nose as far as they could. Another volunteer stood in front of my bonnet, giving me written instructions one page at a time. I was allowed to open my window (passenger side) an inch so,they could pass through the testing kit. I was then guided to an area to park up and complete the self test (very clear instructions). It wasn't a very pleasant experience, tickling your tonsils with a swab for 10 secs isn't pleasant, nor shoving it as far up your nostril (I was surprised how far it goes). Much better than someone else doing it ( I did expect an over zealous soldier ramming it up there, so that was a relief) . Then sealed the swab, and drove oto the place you hand it in.
The whole experience starting at booking online and right through to the testing was incredibly efficient. As The Gov was desperate to meet it's target, I assumed the logistics wouldn't yet be in place and I would be subject to delays at some point. I haven't had the results yet, but I booked 3pm yesterday and was tested the following day ( I could have got the 10am slot?) Throughout the meandering through bollards, I didn't see a car in that system, apart from a few parked up in the self testing bay, but again once complete, drove without obstruction to where it is handed in and then out.
I must say, as I was the only visible car going through most of the system, the number of masked 'stewards' shouting verbal prompts through closed windows, the notices to keep windows closed and then the one page at a time written instructions really brought home the reality of it all. It was a vary surreal experience.
It was incredibly efficient. Total overkill? I've never experienced individual service like that ever. It felt they were ready for a football/ covert type response. If they are volunteers, then fine. I assumed it would be peak today, as government were desperate to meet their targets. They are opening testing to others now, so may see an increase. On today's experience though, well done to Humber Local Resillience Forum

 

It is per day though, so could be found out tomorrow, Though they are opening it up to others now, and they maybe have the infrastructure in place to facilitate the ramping up after the weekend, and probably get to the 100,000 per day next week. I'm sure most would accept a few days behind rather than the ridiculous Trump like lies?

 

On a separate note, what do we think of the proposed app we all download to help track n trace cases in the future? I must admit my heart sank when I heard we’re not going with the google/Apple template that other countries are using, and we’re having our own bespoke app. Anyone whose ever been involved with IT systems can tell you it’s far easier, quicker and simpler to take a system off the shelf and configure for your own use than start from scratch and write your own. Management are far too easily distracted by salesman over-promising of shiny functionality that workers know is not needed and that over complicates things, delays delivery and increases cost. Plus the government’s track record (over many years and of all parties) on IT systems rollout is abysmal.

Also, the google/Apple app keeps all your information on your phone, whereas the U.K. option transmits it all to the cloud. I was surprised to find I actually trust Apple/google with my personal information more than our own government on this one, which is wrong on so many levels. In theory, governments are accountable to us all as voters whereas private companies are only accountable to their shareholders. I want to know much more about the app before I’d consider using it, again, surprising as I’m generality quite compliant and not generally one for tin-foil hat theories.

 

Agree, they’ve just about done it, the embellishments and fudging on numbers are silly and a distraction.