it is a dodgy subject ... I just don't see any issue with being gay, however this is a bridge too far in my opinion.
So a gay couple giving a kid a loving home is a worse option than that kid growing up in the care system? Because there are more kids who need adopting than there are people looking to adopt afaik. So if gay people can’t adopt kids there are a higher number who then never have a family life or proper home.
Any who adopts a child is utterly selfless. Some of those poor kids have seen and experienced things that defy belief.
Where did I say you wasn't entitled to one? I've seen and read some of your opinions, certainly towards women, which for some strange reason leads me to conclude you don't have kids. When you've experienced parenthood, I might listen to your view, in the same way as I have time for listening to Spurly's opposite view, because he's interesting. Whereas you, hmmm stones and crawling from under them springs to mind.
nope...that’s fine absolutely...but let’s be honest you really did choose the kid who’s had it really **** in life, as an example another way to look at it would be...ask the kid..do u want a mummy and daddy.....a daddy and daddy?...a mummy and mummy? a used to be a dad but is a mum and a mum who used to be a dad mummy? Then we will see. I reckon a few kids would choose a mummy n mummy coz they got abused by a man therefore scarred...apart from that I reckon odds on most kids would choose a mummy n daddy.
I'm going to have to disagree with you Munse ... my last but one contracting job was to cover a 6 month paternity leave for a gay guy who, with his partner, had adopted 2 very young boys (brothers) that had been taken into social care to protect them from very real risks from their own 'natural' parents ... the elder boy had been so traumatised and become so difficult that social services thought they might have to split the brothers up to find them homes ... instead these guys took them both on and didn't give up despite loads of problems with the elder lad initially ... last I heard both kids were thriving ... and the elder lad is no longer having the night demons that he was having almost every night .. he's also doing well at his new school.
I dont get it, are you saying the kids are doing well because the dudes are gay or because they had a settled home and safety which the may not have had before? If the latter then surely anyone could have given them that platform to grow from? Everyone seems conflicted about this, it's ok to not have a problem with gay couples/people whilst also not agreeing that same sex parents are ok. That is okay right? or does that mean I'm a closet homophobe?
I hope we can all keep civil about this bois but I don't see what the issue with same sex parents is if they are willing and able to provide that settled and safe environment for children? Like I don't think anyone is saying its because they're gay, it's because they're decent and loving human beings. They want to provide a safe and loving environment for a child, we have children in need of a safe and loving environment. Like, your exact quote is not agreeing that same sex parents are ok, in response to a post that discusses these same sex parents providing the perfect environment for kids. It's strange to me.
The married couples that were wanting to adopt the younger kid would not take the elder brother that was 5 or 6 because he was too much of a handful ... social services had got to the point that they were on the verge of splitting the brothers up because finding a home for the toddler on his own would have been much easier ... the elder lad might well have then spent his entire childhood and teenage years in care, given his mental state ... and been split from his brother ...
I dont know how this even got onto same sex couples and children tbh. I dont see any problem with it if they are cool People, but I also feel for the **** the kid will inevitably get for it, afc made a good point that got me thinking when he said kids get **** regardless, which is true. But at the end of the day I don't agree with it, and that's okay too. Doesn't make me a **** or anti gay, it's just my own take on it. I just hate bandwagons, and the tranny couple have made this a massive circus, and that is my issue with that.
The only way to settle this I can see involves you adopting a baby and one of our resident not606 homosexuals adopting a baby and see who does a better job after 6 years.