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Britains 1st transgender parents

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  1. Spurlock

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    It invalidates my point about the hypocrisy...yes it does and I’ve stated that.


    you’re right...the rest is me verbalising my reasoning...you call it intolerance...I call it reasoning. It only becomes intolerance if I think I’m going to do something about it. I’ve worked with someone who went through the sex change...made no difference to my life. Just like many people probably disagree with me having the right to have 4 wives....it doesn’t affect how I treat anyone...but I don’t have to agree with it and for me...my reasoning has an argument attached to it
     
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    no it doesn’t invalidate my argument as to why...I didn’t say people can’t do what they want.

    It’s a fackin debate...don’t poo poo the other side from a stand point of if you disagree then your not who we looking at for an opinion
     
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    Do you think it’s disgusting and ****ing with genetics when people have mastectomies or hysterectomies? How about tattoos and piercings? Research into gene therapies to eliminate diseases?

    At what point of us adjusting the natural human does it become disgusting? Is it the reasoning that makes it disgusting? The outcome?

    Curious to see what about it you think makes it disgusting?
     
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    I have a view on transgender and it's one that very rarely gets spoken about. I have no objection to what they have done (change), my question or doubt more centres around, why did you feel it neccessary to gender change, because in my head, you are carrying out a prinicple that is fought against, that of gender identification. Which is why I have always struggled with that Olympian, can't remember their name. They don't want to be gender identified, but they are carrying out an identification. Suppose what I'm saying is why can't you be a woman in a man's body, or visa versa but without the change and material identification of that sex.

    So YES, that does fall within the context of your comment. I just hope all this makes sense what I said!
     
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    The four wives thing now that's an interesting one and up for debate in my opinion. If everyone is cool with it, there is no undue pressure from the people's family or society go for it... Your ****ing funeral though, one is plenty for me can't imagine having 4 women ganging up on me!!
     
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    You aren’t you when you’re hungry, bro.
     
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    I reckon @Suckmyklopp could at least get a 20 pager out of this, i might have to steal it as mine <laugh>
     
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    Oh I can definitely see there are valid discussions and issues around gender identification. And people should be able to air their views, have them challenged and as a society figure out how the conversation moves forwards.

    My general stance on most things though is if you do it to yourself and you aren’t hurting someone else then go for it. Personal choice is paramount.
     
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    <laugh>

    #ramadanburn
     
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    Fair enough, opinions are opinions. I’m ambivalent to it tbh, it doesn’t affect my life and I don’t see how that particular couples rather unique situation affects anyone else’s either.
     
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    But there is pressure from society.

    I can’t have more than one wife by law but I can have 1 wife and as many mistresses as I want.

    The law made that up and society moulded its thoughts around it.

    The biological aspect of changing sexes will never make sense to me. I also think this group of people being boxed off in the same box as gays and Lesbians is unfair because at least the gay/lesbian doesn’t go under the knife. Their transformation is in the head and manifests itself in their lives. Anything under the knife is a manipulated exercise and not natural.
     
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    One wife is plenty. Four? No ****ing thanks!

    Completely agree though, provided it is through consensual agreement and not societal pressure then go for it!
     
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    doesn’t affect my life either...I honestly think all this will affect future generations of humans though in a big negative way psychologically

    Imagine a world in which 75% has had sex changes...it would be terrifying and I won’t lie I would be hugely disappointed in my own children if they wanted sex changes.

    I’m a boring old heterosexual male at heart who just wants to repeat the normal biological cycles of life.
     
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    All depends where you are in the world as well, yeah in the UK the legal system and society would be against, however multiple partners is something that is happening more and more, but people do keep quiet, it's certainly more accepted in Nordic countries.
     
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    I’d be disappointed if deep down they wanted one and didn’t get one, making them unhappy.
     
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    bro...I’ve got zero wives. It was just an example of how society moulds thoughts and how eventually we start to accept them thoughts as second nature. Yet when you step back and think about it...what’s the difference.

    ok I’ll remove humans from my debate

    it’s like people who smoke or those who tolerate it yet they turn their nose up when someone has a biff.

    my mate during the first fast said to me..how will you cope without smoking weed. I said how will you cope without smoking cigs? He said yeah but cigs are allowed.

    We are levels apart mentally...so I left him to his own little thoughts
     
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    I suspect if one of your kids was going through this and the struggles they were having your opinion might just change. It's hardly an easy choice to make and can't even get my head round what must be going through their heads to go through with it, but just can't believe many people do it as a first, second, third .. etc.. choice hence why there is large numbers of suicides within Trans/questioning people
     
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    A lot who would be pro choice for Trans would also support your choice to toke, there are a lot of society norms/expectations that are there because it's the way it has been for years, which doesn't make it right
     
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    thats nice

    you’re the bloke who says things like

    ‘he/she died doing something they loved’ as empty consolation when it dawns upon them that they did a **** job of trying to protect their kids.

    when some idiot decided it was cool to free climb a high building making a YouTube vid and fell to their death. Or the backpacking daughter who thought it was cool to wander in the outback wilderness before she was found raped and half chewed by wild animals.

    I’m glad your that type of parent or would be...coz once again I’m the boring type who would have to do everything I can to make my children see the pitfalls of things and I would be hugely disappointed if my warnings were not heeded and as a result my child lost its life.

    I would be hugely disappointed with myself for not trying harder considering it happens a fair bit and so ****in what if people have to go through a period of unhappiness till they see sense.

    Are you a parent?
     
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    I’m not honestly sure where to start with this but no I’m not.
     
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