Begins with a C, ends in an e, and includes a childrens entertainer that many people have an irrational fear of.
jesus wept, everyone has a problem with Clive, you don't like..****ing ignore. And to be honest, he hasnt changed his views on Grayson and some are now actually seeing that some of the stuff he posts is quite true. Leave the bloke alone, this harrasment of him is stupidity. he has his opinions you have yours, revising his name is ****ing playground stuff. Are you all 10 again? and if he does in fact turn out to be right will some of you lot actually apologise for treating him with such contempt? will you bollocks.
Pags, if he is right I have no intention of apologising. It's his attitude and the way he speaks to others that I don't like, not his opinions. It's the condescending "this is what I think and if you don't agree then I'm better than you" attitude that he consistently puts forward. He can be correct all he wants, but he'll be alone. Besides that it's fun to take the piss.
Theres people I cant stand on here but I dont go round persecuting them for having a different opinion. Yes he can be smarmy and thinks hes always right but thats his own personal opinion just like we all have ours. and the fact youve admitted you like to take the piss and bully someone, you are beneath contempt.
Clivetime is annoying but he does stick to his guns that is the picture I saw and so what if its shopped I still believed it at first
I read somewhere recently that trying to rise above assholes who behave with hostility towards you and just let it slide, smiling or laughing and walking away, is essentially setting up a system of positive reinforcement. If, on the other hand, you grab a hold of your balls, assert yourself and tell them they are being a dick, they get a negative reinforcement. The former rewards poor behaviour by letting them know they can A) get away with it and B) if they act like that, people will generally back down out of "being the better person" or "not rising to it" or simply not wanting to spend time and energy on someone being difficult. The latter punishes poor behaviour by standing up to it and letting them know if they behave like that they will be treat like ****. Being remorseless in our cruelty to Clive, we have subdued his behaviour at least a little. He's been posting less, he's been less hostile towards people and generally more open to discussions. I've even noticed he's started making the odd valid point without throwing in snide remarks about Grayson. Why? Because he's slowly learning that if he does, people will disregard his opinion. When we're doing well you don't hear a peep out of him, leading to the conclusion that he is, infact, not looking to get a rise out of it, he simply wants to be correct. If he wanted to get a rise out of people, he'd come on here trolling the boards when we're doing well, not when we're doing poorly. He comes on here with his mindset that he is right and wants people to acknowledge that.
