Nothing really to do with government, not much they could do with this unknown virus, all they are trying to do is to stop it spreading & contain it & in the meantime hoping to find a vaccine for it, Boris & tories was appointed & have no problem with that & are on a hiding to nothing over this
Its jeff, I feel blessed that he's actually written something. Forget any substance, not necessary, its jeff!!!!
Infact jeff, the more I read your post the more I agree with it, for example: "Nothing really to do with government, not much they could do with this unknown virus" That answers why they have actually done **** all then. Spot on fella
Now now Bob, I just don’t trust or rate the Homegrown mainstream media and rather prefer an outside view to be honest with you. You got me !!!! Maybe calling him an idiot was a bit harsh I suppose, but for him not to accept or see the damage he did to the Labour Party in my opinion doesn’t make him very bright, or at least doesn’t make him look that way in the public’s eye.
Fair enough response Turkish. I'm of the opinion that the media did a right job on Corbyn, I personally dont think he was the right man to lead labour but I also think that he was/is a decent man. Always remember it's the same media who did a job on him that people are up in arms about now which from all sides comes across as hypocritical to say the very least.
Maybe he was just a man of principle who wanted to take the party back to its socialist roots which had been sadly lacking under a centre left leadership of the past. I’ll admit I was disappointed that he didn’t stick to his guns and come out firmly as a leaver but hey ho....life’s full of disappointment.....as I think a few of these new found working class Tories will find.
Airborne coronavirus detected in Wuhan hospitals Adding to growing evidence that the novel coronavirus can spread through the air, scientists have identified genetic markers of the virus in airborne droplets, many with diameters smaller than one-ten-thousandth of an inch. That had been previously demonstrated in laboratory experiments, but now Chinese scientists studying real-world conditions report that they captured tiny droplets containing the genetic markers of the virus from the air in two hospitals in Wuhan, China, where the outbreak started. 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Adding to growing evidence that the novel coronavirus can spread through the air, scientists have identified genetic markers of the virus in airborne droplets, many with diameters smaller than one-ten-thousandth of an inch. That had been previously demonstrated in laboratory experiments, but now Chinese scientists studying real-world conditions report that they captured tiny droplets containing the genetic markers of the virus from the air in two hospitals in Wuhan, China, where the outbreak started. Sign Up For the Morning Briefing: Asia and Australia Newsletter It remains unknown if the virus in the samples they collected was infectious, but droplets that small, which are expelled by breathing and talking, can remain aloft and be inhaled by others. “Those are going to stay in the air floating around for at least two hours,” said Linsey Marr, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Virginia Tech who was not involved with the Nature paper. “It strongly suggests that there is potential for airborne transmission.” Dr. Marr and many other scientists say evidence is mounting that the coronavirus is being spread by tiny droplets known as aerosols. The World Health Organization has so far downplayed the possibility, saying that the disease is mostly transmitted through larger droplets that do not remain airborne for long, or through the touching of contaminated surfaces. Even with the new findings, the issue is not settled. Although the coronavirus RNA — the genetic blueprint of the virus — was present in the aerosols, scientists do not know yet is whether the viruses remain infectious or whether the tests just detected harmless virus fragments. “The missing piece is viable viral replication,” said Harvey V. Fineberg, who leads the Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats at the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine. “Could you culture this virus from the air?” In February and March, scientists collected samples at Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University and at a makeshift temporary medical facility used to quarantine and treat patients with mild symptoms. They also sampled the air in public areas around Wuhan, including a residential building, a supermarket and two department stores. Very little virus was detected in the air of the isolation wards or in the patient rooms of the hospital, which were well ventilated. But elevated concentrations were measured in the small toilet areas, about one square yard in size, which were not ventilated The researchers also detected viruses in the air in the locations where staff members took off their protective garments, suggesting that viruses that had settled on clothing could be knocked back into the air. These readings were greatly reduced after the hospitals implemented more rigorous cleaning procedures. The Wuhan data echo findings at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, where other researchers also found coronavirus RNA in the air as well as on surfaces in rooms. That research, still in the process of being reviewed by other scientists before publication in a journal, did not determine the size of the droplets. But the presence of RNA from the virus in out-of-the-way locations, such as under a bed and on window sills, also suggested that small droplets were carried around the rooms by air currents. In their paper, the Nebraska researchers detected the presence of coronavirus RNA, but not whether the viruses were still infectious. In additional experiments, the scientists are trying to grow the virus in cultures to determine if they are capable of sickening people. “We’ve made a lot of progress the last couple of weeks,” said Joshua L. Santarpia, a professor of pathology and microbiology at the Un iversity of Nebraska Medical Center. “I really do hope that we’ll start being able to say something more definitive in the next week or so.” In the Wuhan research, no viruses were detected in most of the public places they studied, including the residential building and the supermarket, although some levels were detected in crowded areas outside of one of the hospitals and in the department stores. Dr. Marr said she calculated it would take about 15 minutes for a person to breathe in one virus particle. “It was interesting to see there were measurable amounts,” Dr. Marr said. “I think it adds good evidence to avoid crowding.” The paper did not state whether people passing through those areas were wearing masks, which would block much of the virus a sick person breathes out.
Tom Moore got promoted on his birthday. It’s nice to mention the positive stories and celebrate the heroes that are made in crisis. If all these stories help give people hope and put a smile on a few faces then brilliant. That shouldn’t be confused with blindly being positive and optimistic about everything in this crisis, because this isn’t the Soviet Union.
The numbers still do not add up. Forget what the media says as they are sloppy and biased. Forget what the politicians are telling us as they all have an agenda. My first post on here was this week to add information about the numbers. The figures I am using are the only ones that I believe we can trust. These figures are provided by the Office of National Statistics and they record the number of weekly deaths reported to them in the UK. This figure is based on fact. When someone dies their death has to be legally reported to the registrar and this is the number that gets fed back to the ONS. The ONS number is reported every Tuesday but is for a week that ended twelve days previously. The figure that they reported this week was for the week ending 17th April. The figures for the three weeks up till the end of the week ending 17th April show a total number of deaths in the UK as 57,254. An average UK spring will show a recorded death rate of around 10,500 per week, times that by three and it equals 31,500. My simple interpretation of these numbers lead me to the simple conclusion that as of 17th April 2020 the actual number of deaths brought on by this virus was in fact 27,104 (roughly). Thirteen days have now passed since then and some had died before this three week period. As of now, using the ONS statistics I would say that a true representation of the number of deaths aided by this virus is around 42,000 (forty two thousand).
Just seen a YouTube interview with our numbers expert Priti Patel. Surely this woman cant be in a job for much longer. Useless is the biggest compliment I can afford her. With people like her at the helm, it's no wonder we have the highest death rate in the world 2nd to the usa.
She’s managed to focus all of her time on keeping domestic violence growth in double rather than treble digits. Plus shoplifting is down. Give her a break. The Patel test is quite an important one for people. If you back the government but don’t rate her there is still hope for you.
Some people get really pissed off at other countries supposedly cooking their numbers, the same people who refuse to acknowledge we are doing the same......no names mentioned.
Gove admits he only read key Exercise Cygnus pandemic planning report last week And we wonder why we are where we are!
Could ask Raab but he just laughed when asked if he had read it. Could ask HanCOCK but he's still under the Impression that it wont effect us greatly and the infection rate will be very low. Could ask Priti but there isn't enough money in the world that would have covered the cost. Best ask Boris laterz
