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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    A better way to bring about the second wave couldn’t be imagined. <doh>
     
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  2. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    Well I shall not be giving them my custom after his shocking behaviour.
     
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    They've already said pubs will be the last places to open.

    Tim Martin can go **** himself, class A ****!
     
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  4. Paddy Podped

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    Let's hope he's thinking 2021
     
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  5. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    He's the type of guy people wouldn't actually mind doing time for. Hes just a complete wrongun, and his pubs happen to be complete **** tips aswell.
     
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  7. Schad

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    Because the up-slope is so much steeper than the down-slope, every day that the UK was late to act when this began is another week (at least) that it will have to wait before it can begin limited reopening.

    Every day too early that the UK reopens in part or full is probably another two weeks that it will take to reach full reopening at the end of the process, because of the manner in which the waves will compound.

    There are no shortcuts here. The number of new cases, and the number of deaths, have flattened, but they haven't exactly plummeted. No one wants to be stuck inside doing nothing, but counterintuitively being stuck inside doing nothing now greatly reduces the amount of time where it'll be necessary to remain stuck inside doing nothing.
     
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    We are going to make 40K now. Ok, we are **** at Eurovision, but we are heading for No1!
     
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  9. San Tejón

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    Not a vaccine but a treatment being researched in the US.
    The full details have not been published, but experts said it would be a "fantastic result" if confirmed, but not a "magic bullet" for the disease.

    A drug would have the potential to save lives, ease pressure on hospitals and allow parts of lockdown to be lifted.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52478783
     
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  11. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    I would be very surprised if any pub was allowed to open before September/October.........I can see some easing in June maybe but very gradual. Before that in my opinion would be a bit of a disaster under present circumstances.
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Suspect pubs will be one of the last things to reopen, and under reduced capacity originally.
     
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  13. saintrichie123

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    I would be surprised is pubs were to open again this year, and when they eventually do, I will not be using any establishments owned by Tim Martin, it’s a disgrace how he treated his employees.
     
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    If I understood, the drug improves the survival rate?
     
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  16. Lemons and Oranges

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    So you'll still be susceptible to Covid-19, but you might not be so ill as a result? Or you'll take longer to become ill?
     
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  17. saintrichie123

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    Dr Anthony Fauci who runs the NIAID said: "The data shows remdesivir has a clear-cut, significant, positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery."

    He said the results prove "a drug can block this virus" and were "opening the door to the fact that we now have the capability of treating" patients.

    The impact on deaths is not as clear cut. The mortality rate was 8% in people given remdesivir and 11.6% in those given a placebo, but this result was not statistically significant, meaning scientists cannot tell if the difference is real.
     
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    Clear advice from Spain.

     
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    There are also concerns being expressed about the way they went about the study:



    Short version is that this study shows better recovery times, which is important. Means less strain on the health system, might mean less chance of long-term consequences. But it's still well short of a panacea, and their aim in scaling up production is to have enough to treat 500,000 patients in six months.

    And as other studies (including a larger one in China) did not show the same, it's hopeful, but it's probably going to need to be one tool of many.
     
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    The China tests were stopped because there wasn't enough patients as the Wuhan lockdown was so effective. A bigger trial is underway and other drugs are being investigated. So far as I understand it will probably be a combination of drugs that will provide an effective treatment that alleviates suffering and prevents deaths. I'll have a look at the European Medicines Agency site later, they were prioritising the search for treatments.
     
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