I have no problem with our defence and I agree, with Brown and O Shea we look very tight at the back. However, good defences dont make successful teams if you cant score. We are going to struggle to score goals without a recognised goal scorer in the squad and for that I lay the blame at guess who? He has had since January to think of a replacement for Judas and even failed to do that. On top of that he has let yet another bloody striker go without any replacements in first. Abject? Hapless? Thick? All 3 are apt descriptions for Bruce but to be fair, fat geordie twat fits him best. Lol
yes yes x a billion........of course it matters.....its the essence of fan behaviour to want to beat your local rivals.....it represents the nature of the game as a whole entity.....without it therec would be no game as we know it......
**** me, can you give the team speech next March mate. Bruce needs some inspiration and you can give it some. Lol
Of course the derby is an important game. But in the modern era of teams having quite a few foreign players it must be hard to convey to them what it means to the 49000 fans out there. This is where we miss players like Bally et al, those types of players don't need a manager to get the team up. He would have walked round the dressing room and looked every player in the eye to see if they were up for it. To me and many other fans it consumes me for at least a week before the game. The nervousness is unbearable at times. But it doesnt define a whole season. Of course I want to win those games but I also want a successful season.
How long before brown is injured anyway? Bruce is hapless and will lead us no where. The sheep will never see this though as they believe all the ****e the club grain feeds to them. Very very sad
Bruce shouldn't be hounded out of the club for being unable to pull off a derby victory. If you consider the fact that last time Sunderland beat Newcastle was when Joe Kinnear was in charge and Newcastle were nose diving their way into the 2nd tier, then you have to think, how often do you actually get the better of them? If it had not been for back room issues and Kevin Keegan had stayed on that season, would you have still got 3 points? Man Utd couldn't beat Kevin Keegan's Newcastle side on the opening day of the season. The derby games are ones to treasure, they always mean that little bit more to one set of supporters, in our case it means more for City fans to beat us than it does for us to beat them, although that might even itself out a bit now, even though any Man Utd fan will tell you it probably hurts more getting beat by the bindippers. From an outsiders point of view, it just looks like the Newcastle players understand the derby more. I don't think it has anything to do with Steve Bruce though, the outcome of the game, although I do think he's on borrowed time.
If both teams continue to improve I think we may start to see us winning our respective home games for the next few seasons. I can just see it falling into that pattern. Newcastle win at SJP Sunderland win at SOL So on and so forth. To be honest I wouldn't mind that too much at all, but obviously I'd prefer better. That's one thing about Sunderland mind. You guys just seem to find it difficult to beat us, regardless of the teams being put out. Something just gets into the Sunderland players psyche (or something positive gets into the Newcastle players psyche) which means that Sunderland players never come into the game looking confident or ready for battle. Perhaps the run of the results over the years just plays on their mind and the pressure mounts. I don't know. It could even be that we have four geordies in our side in Shola Ameobi, Sammy Ameobi, Saylor and Harper. Whether they play or not, they're in the dressing room and their feelings about the derby might well filter through to the other players.
Just because Man U didn't beat them that season means SAFC would have no chance? Did that extend to the other 9 games you failed to win that season? I was under the impression football worked differently to that. As well, Keegan was a major factor in NUFC being relegated. And as for NUFC players understanding the derby more and not being Bruces fault, who brought those players in, is Bruce not from the NE, would he not understand what it means? The answer is either Bruce is not good enough to bring in good enough players, or Bruce is not good enough to convey what it means to the players i.e. bottling it, or worst of all deliberatly throwing the derbies. Anyway you look at it, it comes back to Bruce.
How the hell could a manager 'throw' a derby without the players consent...For goodness sake think about this eh.. If anything I believe that Bruce and the players are perhaps too desperate to win this game, and the nerves and occasion get to the players.
Perhaps by building the game up too much thus placing too much pressure on the players, or setting the team up badly etc. There would be no guarantee it would work however, but it is possible. To suggest it COULDN'T happen out right is daft. (And no I'm saying that is what has happened, nor do I think this is what actually transpired. It was merely a possibility.)
You have 5 geordies in your team chaps. You forgot the fat ****er in our dressing room? He's your best player by a country mile. As for history I don't buy it. Different players, managers have actually produced better results. Reid and Keane had no problems with getting results in derby games and Denis Smith had the most famous one of all and I recall Gary Rowell enjoys a game at sid James park as well. A different manager with the same squad, would have won the game for us last month imo. I have no doubts about it. Only time will tell about your theory about home wins but I agree there isn't a *** paper between the 2 teams at the minute in terms of quality.
Throwing the game isn't necessarily telling the players to lose RAW. Subtle changes to training, preparation, team selection and tactics could effect the game. Whether on purpose as I believe or through desperation, I think Bruce is our biggest obstacle to Derby success and his going te support his boyhood club on Saturday just confirms where his heart really lies. How can if then genuinely lead our club into battle against them without a heavy heart. Bruce, for me, is throwing derby games.
I honestly think that you are being irrational regarding your arguments with Bruce and the derby games... I also believe that Bruce got the tactics badly wrong by playing two defensive-minded central midfielders, but that also stands for every other game barring the last one... Rather than saying he has done this on purpose, I'm now hopeful that he has learnt his lesson by what I regard as previous mistakes, and will now take us forward to better things in the coming months..
I hope he is replaced as soon as possible with someone that can deliver this for both of us mate. Bruce never will for sunderland and those derby disasters do matter to me. I can't see up ever even competing in one as long as we have this geordie supporting manager in charge of team affairs.
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Tells me all I need to know about you pal. Any fan who thinks a derby game is just 3 points is a fan I haven't much time for to be honest. I'll take your comments with an even larger pinch of salt than I usually do henceforth chum.
