I'm on a roll tonight lads and lasses. The bairns fast asleep and I'm bored to death with the telly. Lol Just thinking about Reid's years at the club this morning when I was reading something about his time with Plymouth and undoubtedly for me the best ever football witnessed in my lifetime with the most exciting football I've seen as well and thought would I have him back as manager? Now, dont get me wrong, I had some issues with the man towards his final few months(he became an arrogant and sometimes ignorant bugger) and he was the orchestrator of his own downfall in some regards but hell, I loved the football his teams played. He had dipped into his own pocket to pay the electric bill, didn't take full wages and raffled his FA Cup medal to help pay players wages which for me tells me he is a top bloke as well deep down. Ridsdale is both a fool and twat for his handling of the great man. So, would I have him here over Bruce? In the blinking of an eye I would . 100% He could make more out of the squad we have here than Bruce ever will imo and I think the stadium would be rocking once again which it hasn't done since he left. The atmosphere at games when he was manager was electric and I miss that. Anyone else fancy a bit of cheer up Peter Reid again at the SOL?
I would have reidy back in a heartbeat Cest. He is without doubt my favourite manager in recent times and if he'd had the money Keano and Bruce have had maybe things would have turned out differently.
You cant be basing that statement one his recent time at Plymouth surely? They havent paid any players since January. Sold every available decent one to raise money, cant pay their bills and are operating with a skeleton staff behind the scenes and a bare minimum squad of part timers and youths. SAF couldnt do anything with that shambolic affair. I'd have him back here in the time it takes to sign Bruces dismissal. Give him the next 4 months to suss out the squad and a few bob in January and away we go. Happy days. Ah well, I can dream cant I. Back to the depressing manager we are stuck with.
Think the game has moved on along way from when he was in his pomp Cest and has unfortunatly left him behind. His record after he left us was very poor by any measure. I just don't see him having the man management skills for the pampered modern day footballer. I agree he is a top man with good morals but a modern day manager, I don't believe so. There have been ample opportunities for him to go to other Prem clubs over the years and nobody has picked him up.
I know, if he could come back and produce what he did before I would obviously have him, Im not too sure
Wease 555 - but this is the point. I think we need to get away form the pampered brigade of Gyans and Bents and get back to basics which Reidy is expert in. We need a team of 11 lads who can graft and fight and work as a team and for me Peter Reid is unsurpassed. Anyway, its only my ramblings and isn't going to happen anyway. I just fancied a trip down memory lane mate with a great SAFC team and manager in days when we could really hold up our heads as SAFC fans. We could give the mags a good hiding too then.
I like Peter Reid. Proper football fan and knows the game inside out, seems like a top bloke to boot. Do you reckon he's tuned into the modern game though?
I disagree Wease, I think with the right club he could still do a good job. What better club than ours, theres a special relationship between the two. Don't forget the way our team played under him, some wonderful football. Maybe he would struggle with the modern day footballer (Gyan, Bent etc) but I feel we have some talented down to earth players at our club who would react well to him. Cest, you arse...... You got me rambling on and getting all excited here. lol Would never happen so I'm gonna stop thinking about it.
Me too mate but they are as rare as hens teeth these days. Its all about money for the ****ers these days. You can get grafters and fighters (Catts, Bardo) but unfortunatly the authorities and refs are trying to eradicate those qualities out of the game. It pace and skill that rules now and that costs money and players been arse kissed by managers. If Reid got hold of modern day prem players they would be spitting their dummies in 5 minutes. The game has made managers like Reid outdated, I don't like it or agree with it but thats the **** state we find the modern game in, players rule these days and fans and clubs are all the worse for it.
Well Bruce certainly ****ing isn't imo. Lol I dont know if he is or isn't, I'm just rambling a bit tonight kidda and reminiscing about the last time I was genuinely excited as a Sunderland fan. Bruce has got me ****ing pissed off with things and he cant change that feeling while he is manager. I have made my feeling know about him and I have washed my hands of him and just want a Sunderland manager that cared as much as Reid did about us as fans. I dont think Bruce really gives a rats arse about Sunderland or its fans to be honest and he has no passion or ambition. Reidy was an arrogant cocky ****er but he was a street fighter and no-one pushed him around and I really miss that about the club these days. I wish Kevin Ball had gone out somewhere in the last few seasons and managed a club for a couple of years or so. He could have came back as our manager, as I feel he would be the closest thing to Reid for a modern time. A hard fighter with fire in his belly and a genuine love of my club. Just wishful thinking out loud I guess.
He first came here 16 years ago mate, the Prem is a very different animal now and so are the players. There are zero managers of his ilk working in the top league now. For better or worse thats just how it is.
Sorry kidda. Reid's era was the last of the good times for me as a Sunderland fan and the last time I felt going to the match was alive and dynamic. His reign was exciting and fiery and the SOL was a place to fear for opposition teams not like today under Bruce. We are easy meat these days. Would love to think those times could come back one day but for me, that will never be under Bruce. His fire is well extinguish in my eyes and we are again just treading water, waiting for the inevitable.
I think Bruce is out of his depth like but he's been unlucky too, with Gyan and Bent being found out as the money grabbing ****s that they are. From an outsider's point of view it looks like poor old Brucey has reached the point of no return. His tactics are often baffling but you can see the makings of a very decent first team are there and on paper he's made some good signings. I just think he's too scared, or too indecisive, to commit to a plan and get his team playing a particular style of football. I reckon that's where Pardew has done better than expected with us, he's coped with the loss of Carroll, Jose, Barton and Nolan by utilising our pacey players and we've started playing a fast pass & move game now whereas last season was more "hoofball". It doesn't look to me like Bruce wants, or knows quite how to, commit to a style or method. This is where Peter Reid would surely be an improvement, he seemed to have the "team ethic" thing down to a tee. Whether or not he's up to scratch with today's game is another issue.
Pardew has made much more of the ****ty hand he has been dealt by ashley, than Bruce has the decent hand dealt by quinny that's for sure. Out of his depth? Totally agree. He is a wigan size manager not a sunderland one imo and its beginning to show much more now. Like Kean at blackburn, the writing is on the wall for 2 men struggling to cope. At wigan, sneaking top 10 gets you a job for life. I want much more than that.
This is surely not the same Peter Reid who bled our club dry by only dealing with one agent and spending way over the odds money on gems such as Milton Nunez?...
I agree with with Wease, I think the game has come on too far and the Reidys of this world are dated. On the 'if he'd had keane/bruce money' remember the value of money in football then and now. I think 3m then is 6m now if you get what I mean. Flo 6-8m Stewart ?m medina 3.5m nunuz 3m Laslandes ?m Piper 3m Fredgaard ?m You could see half way through the third season in the prem under Reidy (after the two 7th finishes) that things were starting to unravel, we slipped down the league and nearly got relelgated. I remember we couldn't even beat a dreadful Derby at home with the threat of relegation looming. I'm sure his position was considered in the summer but they gave him the benefit of the doubt and let him go Into then next season only to realize the spiral was still downward and they eventually sacked him.
