I also covered testing "They also tested very quickly and managed to produce affordable testing kits. Whereas we have not been able to do that." As I have said previously Watford stop taking one piece out of my post and blowing it out of all proportions. the whole piece made sense.
You really should be more self-aware if you’re going to accuse people of that. Enough have pointed it out. So are they almost immune or not?
Well, if we can’t compare because ‘its not fair’ how can we learn? I haven’t studied these countries and how they have handled the virus, I just know that their death rate per million is much lower than ours. Denmark - size of the country makes no difference, unless you believe small countries are better governed. The comparison is deaths per million of population, which I am sure you understand is a ratio, not an absolute number. Singapore - small countries, lots of travel with Chinese community, strong initial lockdown, low deaths per million. The argument might be that as its nearly on the equator the hot climate might have a role in suppressing the virus. Look, gave you that for free. Hong Kong - if Hong Kong was as closely controlled as China, we would know little about the months of protest about extradition and never hear about the imprisonments etc. Their data is pretty reliable. Germany - I’d rather be seeing this out in Germany than here, wouldn’t you? Yes they have structural advantages over us, including having an industrial base and a health system with plenty of capacity. I reckon Germany is the country we should be trying to emulate in future as you do. Yes they do pay into the medical system, just like you do, but in a much more transparent way, it’s not part of general taxation. See my discussion with Stroller. South Korea was simply very well prepared and has the systems in place to do things at population level probably because they are ready for biological attack from the north. Again we can learn from this. I haven’t studied them at all. Why could they produce testing kits quickly and we can’t? Innate superiority? I think not. Learning to be had. Not sure if they have a you g population compared to us, which might help them. They don’t appear to be immune, they do die in far smaller numbers. France, Italy and Spain - they might have something to teach us, but their death rates are higher than the UK published one, so obviously I wouldn’t include them on my list of places to copy. I notice that you omitted commenting on New Zealand - am island country, with a similar population and culture, no industrial and research resources yet with much lower death rates than us....... Don’t worry, no need to prolong this. It seems we have on this and many other things a very different perspective.
Mmm....reeks of a civil service leak. Highly politicised, mentioning brexit time and again. This paper has a recent history of disliking Johnson and was vehemently against brexit. There are valid criticisms there, but heavily coated with bias. Seems just about everyone has an axe to grind. Who to believe?
Just for correction Ellers..this is not a criticism but a correction of a false piece of information ( I am a bit like the BBC here). "It has been well documented that Germany has a very good health care system as well as those 100 labs compared to our 4." We have plenty of labs that can do the test. Every major tertiary hospital can do those tests. Every major hospital centre (probably around 100 I would guestimate) has the facility to test for virus's and they do it every single day of the week...EBV, Flu, etc. What we do not have is the right test kits in the numbers required. FROM THE POSTED ARTICLE Amazingly, she(the chairperson of UK diagnostic agency) says her organisation did not receive a meaningful approach from the government asking for help until April 1 — the night before Hancock bowed to pressure and announced a belated and ambitious target of 100,000 tests a day by the end of this month The kits are made in factories belonging to the pharma and those are mainly situated on the continent. I suspect for logistical reasons (closeness), national ties, money and also being part of the EU procurement proceedure (which we had the opportunity to be in, but decided against joinin), we are towards the back of the queue in getting those kits.
I didn't appreciate that you wanted to discuss NZ. I would probably say per capita they have lots of space. I would also think about temperature in Jan/Feb/March... although Prof Simon Clarke says we will have to wait until the end of the year for information on heat v virus.
The provision is universal. The regulation is, I suppose, pretty good though I’m sure it’s not perfect. If we went the same way but were unable to regulate effectively (as, to be fair, seems to be the case now), that would cause me to severely doubt our state/government capacity to actually manage social care properly.
Now up to 13 deliveries and 68 meals for the food bank......read into that what you will. Funny story of the day is one old boy jokingly asked if I was a pirate ‘cos I was wearing my St Pauli/Skull and Crossbones T-shirt... ‘No’ I said, ‘I’m an anarchist and this is a German anarchist football team’.........spent 10 mins trying to explain to him what anarchism really is about and not to believe everything that he reads...... He still didn’t get it but nice fella
I might be wrong but I think a lot of firms are paying their employees then claiming from the government.....this is definitely the case at British Airways
That's the case yet many firms I know still haven't received anything. One has had to lay 3 lads off as the reimbursements just haven't been forthcoming. Only another 6 weeks or so for the self employed to wait. Let's hope they have good on the table
Turkish, has your Mrs received a letter regarding 12 week isolation due to her condition? Mine hasn't which is quite incredible really.
