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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by AmalCarb, Jan 24, 2020.

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  1. The B&S Fanclub

    The B&S Fanclub Well-Known Member

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    Those pesky humans haven't been seen for days, then they come out at 8pm to scare the **** out of the bird's.

    most of it lands on my car.
     
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  2. Cortez91

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    Great social distancing there <doh>
     
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  3. look_back_in_amber

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    Dunno but when did Jurgen Klopp become an MEP?
     
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    They must be all the homeless who live under the bridge.
     
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  5. Ric Glasgow

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    They're simply applauding the carers in advance of being treated in 5 days time!!!! Clearly social distancing measures are relaxed at 8 p.m Thursdays....
     
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  6. TIGERSCAVE

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    I've been watching a broadcast about a drug they have been testing called Ivermectin. Seemingly amazing results in inhibiting the duplication of the virus.

    The paper is below for anyone interested.,..

    https://www.drperlmutter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/1-s2.0-S0166354220302011-main.pdf

    This is the conclusion..

    • Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro.

    • A single treatment able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in virus at 48h in cell culture.

    • Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for

      repurposing.

    • Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential

      medicines.

    This guy Dr Perlmutter has daily you tube broadcasts about the current situation. He's interesting to listen to..
     
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  7. Amin Yapusi

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    Actually old spice. But point taken.
     
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  8. Ric Glasgow

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    Hai Karate for me......
     
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  9. BlackAndAmberGambler

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    Words fail me.<doh>
     
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  10. Plum

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    It's £18m now and it was absolutely not a criticism of Tom's contribution which includes a small sum from me as it happens. I thought the context might be helpful to those who used Tom's contribution as a stick to beat the govt with at this time.
     
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  11. DMD

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    Yep.

    thanks.jpeg
     
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  12. Amin Yapusi

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    University of Coventry hospitals released a video last night. Lots of emergency workers in the car park socially distanced with their lights flashing having a happy clap.

    Hundreds of ******s squashed shoulder to shoulder all around them.

    I still haven’t mustered even a single clap yet. Some dickhead was playing a saxophone over the road last night, couldn’t hear the telly. Stuck my head out the window and told him to shut the **** up.
     
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  14. Cortez91

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    The hospital ones will be people that are currently working together closely anyway without much/any distancing. The bridge video is more baffling.
     
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    Figures from the Department of Health show the number of UK COVID-19 patients in hospital who have died has risen by 847 to 14,576.
     
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    This is hopeful, but please be aware there will probably be lots of drugs out there that will show promise in lab studies that will never actually get to be used in humans. I get really frustrated when there is a news reports that "scientists say they have found a promising chemical or drug in the fight against ...." because scientists are pushing human knowledge every day and finding useful bits of information, but they aren't the magic bullet we all would want, but a small piece of information like a tiny piece in a 10,000 piece jigsaw.

    Like hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin is a drug with a well known safety profile (ie we know what the side effects are). However, to get to the point of actually treating humans for this particular disease, you need to a) show it reduces viruses in humans not just cells in a lab b) show that reducing viruses in humans actually cures them of COVID-19 at a better rate than if they take it and c) work out what dose of drug is needed to do this, and show that this is a safe level of drug compared to doses of the drug already taken for other diseases. I'd want to see this data before going on to the large scale clinical trials that you'd normally need/let them give it to a close family member who was ill. And it would take at least a few months to get it.

    If this was normal times, once you've done a) to c) then the gold standard is to do a double-blind randomised clinical study against a placebo in a significant number of patients, crunch all the data then apply for a license. Would take a few years. In current times I'd expect some flexibility in recruiting patients to an open label study (ie both patients and doctors know that you are taking the drug and not a placebo) and and make the drug available as widely as possible. But any ethics committee would want the information from a) to c) before you proceeded.

    PS it won't be widely available if people start buying it up like they did hydroxychlorquine.
     
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  18. brownbagtiger

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    The morrisons boxes are much better. Seen reports where people are getting branded products (eg cathedral city cheese, country life butter) not just own brand as shown in the pictures.

    https://www.morrisons.com/food-boxes/
     
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    Thought that was your nickname?
     
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  20. Amin Yapusi

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    If it gets you high, that would be enough for me.

    Points a to c then become irrelevant.

    So what they should be working on is a drug that gets you high and cures covid. I wonder how MDMA would do?
     
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