China delayed telling the world how bad this was, because they insist on eating anything that moves this won’t be the last disease they spread, with Brexit looming it’s about time we started avoiding the made in China **** and buying more British
The other big fook up, not come out yet but it will, is wear masks. Seen a video about Czech Republic they have done same lockdown as everyone else, plus wearing masks and they are the big success story in Europe, stops people spreading and catching the virus, and they put it down to masks.
Doesn’t make a blind bit of sense the NHS screaming for enough PPE and masks then telling the public they don’t make a difference. When you think the patients in hospital are sedated and on ventilators it’s not like they can cough over anyone. Which reminds me, (Jeremy Vine) a lady with something seriously wrong with her was going to see a specialist this week, she was petrified about catching Covid (I missed what was wrong with her). The female guest who was in the NHS told her to not turn up early, spend as little time as possible in the waiting room, touch nothing not even a magazine, don’t bother with gloves but use a 60% alcohol based sanitiser and wear a mask.
Did not make Me laugh one bit. Let me help you get a big laugh. Nichola Sturgeon.. See now it's funny.
I think this is a debate we're going to be seeing a lot in the coming years as we live longer and longer. We already spend a lot of money on hip replacements etc for the very elderly, which I don begrudge them, but we then don't fund certain cancer drugs for children. In terms of chemotherapy being cancelled most cases I've read about are more to do with weighing up the dangers of chemotherapy lowering the immune system and making them vulnerable to Covid-19 but then there are obvious risks with delaying chemotherapy as well. Some cancer patients are being referred for surgery instead. If this ladies treatment is purely down to prioritising resources then that's very sad indeed. I wonder how many cardiac patients will die waiting for heart surgery etc.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783 Thought this was quite interesting... a balanced piece. Chart in it for March shows cause of death from Corona is to a fair degree off-set by reduced deaths from other diseases. That's March figures, obviously April's set of figures for this will be interesting. We know total volume of deaths will be way in excess of usual... so will likely suggest that Corona has caused a huge amount of 'extra' deaths than usual. But it may also have 'brought' them forward ie shortened lives by a month or two and we'll see an ongoing reduction in deaths from other causes over a period of time. Guess it'll take a fair few months before we get an accurate picture. Not suggesting a 'shortened' life by even a month or two is trivial. From my point of view, i'm just interested in getting a sense of perspective in pretty muddy waters.
Regarding this funding, I’ve seen somewhere that the USA did not send it’s January 2019 or January 2020 contributions to cover it’s 2019 and 2020 commitments. So is he announcing something that’s already happened without the provocation he sites? Complete ****er, sooner we get rid of this fraudster conman the better!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/heal...vXPDSSMJ9OSER6RfqfKqV1cVasulthCwJVPjAof553whU Progress? Covid-19 patients recovering quickly after getting experimental drug remdesivir By Maggie Fox, CNN Thu April 16, 2020 (CNN)Covid-19 patients who are getting an experimental drug called remdesivir have been recovering quickly, with most going home in days, STAT News reported Thursday after it obtained a video of a conversation about the trial. The patients taking part in a clinical trial of the drug have all had severe respiratory symptoms and fever, but were able to leave the hospital after less than a week of treatment, STAT quoted the doctor leading the trial as saying. "The best news is that most of our patients have already been discharged, which is great. We've only had two patients perish," Dr. Kathleen Mullane, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Chicago who is leading the clinical trial, said in the video. What we know about the state of coronavirus treatments, vaccines and antibody tests What we know about the state of coronavirus treatments, vaccines and antibody tests Mullane did not immediately respond to a request for comment from CNN. The university said it would comment once the official results of the trial were ready. There is no approved therapy for the Covid-19, which can cause severe pneumonia and acute respiratory distress syndrome in some patients. But the National Institutes of Health is organizing trials of several drugs and other treatments, among them remdesivir. The drug, made by Gilead Sciences, was tested against Ebola with little success, but multiple studies in animals showed the drug could both prevent and treat coronaviruses related to Covid-19, including SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) and MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome). Back in February, the World Health Organization said remdesivir showed potential against Covid-19. STAT said it obtained and viewed a copy of the video discussion Mullane had last week with colleagues about the trial. "Most of our patients are severe and most of them are leaving at six days, so that tells us duration of therapy doesn't have to be 10 days," she was quoted as saying. However, the trial does not include what's known as a control group, so it will be difficult to say whether the drug is truly helping patients recover better. With a control arm, some patients do not receive the drug being tested so that doctors can determine whether it's the drug that is really affecting their condition. Trials of the drug are ongoing at dozens of other clinical centers, as well. Gilead is sponsoring tests of the drug in 2,400 patients with severe Covid-19 symptoms in 152 trial sites around the world. It's also testing the drug in 1,600 patients with moderate symptoms at 169 hospitals and clinics around the world. Gilead said it expected results from the trial by the end of the month. "We understand the urgent need for a COVID-19 treatment and the resulting interest in data on our investigational antiviral drug remdesivir," the company said in a statement to CNN. But it said a few stories about patients are just that -- stories. "The totality of the data need to be analyzed in order to draw any conclusions from the trial. Anecdotal reports, while encouraging, do not provide the statistical power necessary to determine the safety and efficacy profile of remdesivir as a treatment for Covid-19," Gilead said.
Yeah, there is too much money invested to not find anything that really helps. It has been a steep learning curve on the virus but more and more is learned every day. More and more people are now getting antibodies to this thing as they recover. There is a lot of scaremongering going on in the media and they should be held accountable for what they are doing after all this is done. Im still hopeful that the world can get on top of this thing in a matter of months, not years. I don't mean elimination of it, just more controlled and hopefully safer.
Don’t know about the antibodies. Still no evidence someone who’s had it will be immune or for any length of time
