Off Topic SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

I'd give my left knacker for a job at the moment but there's nowt up here.....If people are receiving jobseekers and refusing work they can technically be sanctioned and normally would be but for the clusterfuck that is the DWP at the moment!!!

 

Yes, I understand this. Its a charity which people very kindly donate to, which provides vital funds to the NHS...

Vital funds shouldn't be funded via charity and the NHS shouldn't be reliant on donations. The man has paid a lifetime of tax contributions and shouldn't feel the need to add to funding at 99 years old. If vital funds aren't being provided to the service, then the government needs to raise more revenue to fund it properly, so it isn't reliant on donations or volunteers.

 

Don't know your personal circumstances but if you can do it get down to Lincolnshire! There are produce companies in Scotland too, I expect they're facing the same problems. An employment agency would know all this.

 

Yes I understand. A charity shouldn't be necessary to support workers of an essential service.

 

I don't think it goes to the NHS as such....They're getting money for what they need.My understanding is it's for hospices and suchlike,these institutions are mostly self funding and are buckling with no income coming from their shops and fundraising activities!!!I have one near me(strathcarron hospice,Denny)who are struggling at the moment and we have dug deep as a family to help as they have helped us in the past(though not just for that purpose)I would urge anyone with a couple of quid spare to donate to the local hospice and keep them afloat.

 

While I agree in principle that essential services should be fully funded by government, I fear that very few people would be prepared to pay the taxes necessary to do so in the UK. Additionally, my understanding of NHS Charities together is to raise the money for the "nice to haves" rather than the must haves.

Anyway, this seems to be undignified quibbling over what was a rather nice gesture from a very old man who wanted to find some way of "doing his bit" - it seems like he's been "doing his bit" all his life and sets an example for all of us. The generous response from the public shows how he's touched a nerve for a lot of people, and shown a tangible way that others can support the NHS and NHS workers.

 

There are producers up in Perthshire short on pickers but it's a 100 mile round trip so it's not feasible..

 

It's more undignified that NHS workers aren't supported properly and reliant on a kind old man who has more than done his bit in life. He shouldn't feel the need to raise money for the service, if it was funded properly.

 

Part of the reason we ended up with East Europeans doing the work who are prepared to live on site, or rent 1 house and have 20 of them living in it.

 

In what way aren't they supported properly? Are you referring to the PPE debate,wages,hours worked,holidays,general working conditions?? Expand.

 

Yes and if they do that in this current situation there could well be a stream of ambulances and/or undertaker arriving on a daily basis.

 

If a nurse has been through a particularly horrific experience at work, she/he should receive mental health counselling, rather than it being funded by donations.

It's obviously an emotive subject because of the kind generosity of the man, of which I have zero criticism of, only praise. However, to me it highlights that certain sections of the service are underfunded and shouldn't be reliant on charity.

 

This is an awful prediction, but I said to my wife on Sunday that the figure would be 650 and I am sure that tomorrow will bring a relaxation of the rules. Not pleased with myself, but glad that I could see some sort of pattern with other countries. It really does fascinate me, how the numbers are so very close in each of the countries at some given point. Spain, Italy and the UK had a tipping point that is almost identical.

 

Trust me, Charlie, so many of us love and are forever grateful to the NHS and that was way before all this terrible **** started.

You've seen an awful lot that is wrong with society in the way that the 'brain dead' take you and your Angels for granted, but please trust that 99% of us would defend you with our lives, just as you do for us.

 

Don’t flatter yourself, it’s simple plumbing on their part. Not generosity.

 

How good are you with a spade?

Wages to be negotiated in beer and bbq food.

 

As long as you're not barbecuing bats or pangolins....

 

Well my cat caught a bat once. I’m now beginning to wonder if I did the right thing with it or not...

 

Sorry in advance, MODS please delete is breaching forum rules.

Politics are really unavoidable if we want to debate the reason behind the shortage of masks. This post I hope is seen as a post about social politics and not party politics.

We have put aside our strategic capability for the sake of a free market place in essential goods and services. We cannot produce all of the things that we need in time of crisis, because we as a nation have accepted that cheap is better than secure.

The same people who bemoan the lost of retail outlets, have Amazon accounts. We have to have foreign workers coming to pick our crops because UK citizens do not want to do the work as it is hard work for little reward. We have homeless people on our streets because we buy and sell homes as a commodity and have lost the value in just having a home. How the **** can it be more expensive to fly to Manchester from London than to get on a train.

If any lessons are to be learnt from all of this, I hope that just one really sticks. Protect our National Health Service.