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[sb_73]

Glad it came back negative mate....

seriously you guys in here should get your PSA checked.......first indicator of anything going on....it’s only a blood test...the intrusive stuff only happens if they reckon you might have it

PSA test is notoriously unreliable and can lead to intrusive treatment when none is really needed, though the docs are getting much better at this. Many ageing men have a bit of prostrate cancer and never know it, it’s often slow growing and something else gets them before the cancer. As Stainsey says get yourself checked but don’t worry too much if the PSA is not normal.

 

[kiwiqpr]

Glad it came back negative mate....

seriously you guys in here should get your PSA checked.......first indicator of anything going on....it’s only a blood test...the intrusive stuff only happens if they reckon you might have it

Get mine done once a year for the last five years along with liver cholesterol uric acid levels sugars etc
Didn't have high cholesterol till I got the first one
Last Thursday was this years

 

[bobmid]

Really, other countries have their total death figures on these randomly made up graphs, whilst we just have hospitalised. What is the ****ing point seriously

 

[ELLERS]

Really, other countries have their total death figures on these randomly made up graphs, whilst we just have hospitalised. What is the ****ing point seriously

The recording of deaths in this country is different from others. Read my above post. You cant hide the figures. This is not a government cover-up. they will all be recorded. It's just how it's done.

 

[bobmid]

The recording of deaths in this country is different from others. Read my above post. You cant hide the figures. This is not a government cover-up. they will all be recorded. It's just how it's done.

So why put them on a graph comparing to other countries then? At least highlight on the graph, countries with only hospitalised deaths or vice versa. Doesn't seem as misleading then.

 

[bobmid]

Best come back on here, Ellers is having a total meltdown on the 'politics thread'!!!

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

The Lubeck one was Euroimmun AG, who I believe were taken over last year by GE or Perkin Elmer which produces test systems and automation solutions for medical laboratory diagnostics. The Dresden lab was a national spin off from the old East Germany hospital diagnostic system that we helped get on the road, but they very quickly outstretched us. I do not know that either place is testing to be honest..but if they were they would do it better and faster than we could I would predict.

I suspect they probably are and none of what you've said surprises me. My son is likely to be asked to do some testing at the Institute

and the University where ​

he did his PhD - the whole German biotech sector has seamlessly switched to doing work on Covid-19. He actually finished a few months ago and we attended the presentation of his thesis - conducted in public in Germany. Since then he has continued to work there until he finds a job and the sector is booming with jobs for budding scientists in the immunology and genetic science industries

 

[qprbeth]

I suspect they probably are and none of what you've said surprises me. My son is likely to be asked to do some testing at the Institute

and the University where ​

he did his PhD - the whole German biotech sector has seamlessly switched to doing work on Covid-19. He actually finished a few months ago and we attended the presentation of his thesis - conducted in public in Germany. Since then he has continued to work there until he finds a job and the sector is booming with jobs for budding scientists in the immunology and genetic science industries

Not surprised at all..good luck to your son.

 

[rangercol]

Glad it came back negative mate....

seriously you guys in here should get your PSA checked.......first indicator of anything going on....it’s only a blood test...the intrusive stuff only happens if they reckon you might have it

Absolutely right to keep an eye on the symptoms of prostate problems, although nearly all men end up with an enlarged prostate and many die with and not of prostate cancer.
I've had prostate problems for around 20 years now and have what they call prostatitis. This is an enflamed prostate, not enlarged.
I've lost count of the different examinations I've had and the prostate has always been normal in size and smooth (thus far).
It's when it's rough that there may be a problem.
My problem is that I have some of the symptoms of prostate cancer but have prostatitis.
There's no proof that prostatitis leads to prostate cancer, but of course cancer could develop alongside it and I'd think nothing had changed, unless there's blood or something else I've not had before.
Sorry, didn't mean to go into my medical history.
The point I was going to make is that the PSA test is not always reliable.
It can come back a little raised but not mean you have cancer.
This can result in a worrying time for no reason.
I'm due a test as it absolutely makes sense for me to take one with the symptoms I have from prostatitis.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

PSA test is notoriously unreliable and can lead to intrusive treatment when none is really needed, though the docs are getting much better at this. Many ageing men have a bit of prostrate cancer and never know it, it’s often slow growing and something else gets them before the cancer. As Stainsey says get yourself checked but don’t worry too much if the PSA is not normal.

I'd echo that. I've had 2 different types of cancer in the last 4 years and the second was quite scary as it suddenly appeared some six weeks after the all- clear from my CT scans for the first. First noticed pain in my back over the left kidney which woke me at night. After a couple of weeks I went to a local drop in centre where they found minute traces of blood in my urine. Within a further 3 weeks I had been scanned and all the lymph nodes either side of my spine had all blown up It went as rapidly as it came after three cycles of chemo but they carried on to complete the treatment with the final three. All good now and fingers crossed, my consultant is reasonably optimistic that I have had a cure and am not merely in remission. However I'm not taking anything for granted and will certainly never ignore any persistent aches and pains again.

 

[Willhoops]

Best come back on here, Ellers is having a total meltdown on the 'politics thread'!!!

It’s not a meltdown unless he mentions Diane Abbott, but best have a look just in case.

 

[rangercol]

I'd echo that. I've had 2 different types of cancer in the last 4 years and the second was quite scary as it suddenly appeared some six weeks after the all- clear from my CT scans for the first. First noticed pain in my back over the left kidney which woke me at night. After a couple of weeks I went to a local drop in centre where they found minute traces of blood in my urine. Within a further 3 weeks I had been scanned and all the lymph nodes either side of my spine had all blown up It went as rapidly as it came after three cycles of chemo but they carried on to complete the treatment with the final three. All good now and fingers crossed, my consultant is reasonably optimistic that I have had a cure and am not merely in remission. However I'm not taking anything for granted and will certainly never ignore any persistent aches and pains again.

All the best.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

Not surprised at all..good luck to your son.

Thanks Beth. His educational development was surprising to say the least as he always struggled with sciences in school, yet chose to do them for his A-levels back in the days when he wanted to be a vet. When he did the careers guidance counselling and the testing they do, much to his horror he was told that he should consider a career in the legal profession. All his friends went in to marketing and branding jobs in commerce where they earned well but almost to a man and woman have since dropped out.

All the best.

Cheers mate

 

[bobmid]

I'd echo that. I've had 2 different types of cancer in the last 4 years and the second was quite scary as it suddenly appeared some six weeks after the all- clear from my CT scans for the first. First noticed pain in my back over the left kidney which woke me at night. After a couple of weeks I went to a local drop in centre where they found minute traces of blood in my urine. Within a further 3 weeks I had been scanned and all the lymph nodes either side of my spine had all blown up It went as rapidly as it came after three cycles of chemo but they carried on to complete the treatment with the final three. All good now and fingers crossed, my consultant is reasonably optimistic that I have had a cure and am not merely in remission. However I'm not taking anything for granted and will certainly never ignore any persistent aches and pains again.

Hope it all goes well yorkshire. I'm sure I've asked you before, but where in sunny yorkshire are you?

 

[Staines R's]

PSA test is notoriously unreliable and can lead to intrusive treatment when none is really needed, though the docs are getting much better at this. Many ageing men have a bit of prostrate cancer and never know it, it’s often slow growing and something else gets them before the cancer. As Stainsey says get yourself checked but don’t worry too much if the PSA is not normal.

Totally....but a good indicator to start the ball rolling (of course PSA goes up with age as your prostrate can enlarge....and as you say mate...something will probably get you before the cancer

 

[QPRski]

Stay safe Ski, I want to have the pleasure of your company at HQ soon please

I would love to go to HQ again.

I would even settle for a match on QPR+

Each evening I recite the banes of the players and positions in order not to forget! We are living in a crazy time!

Meanwhile, say safe and well!

 

[Sooperhoop]

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[Staines R's]

Best come back on here, Ellers is having a total meltdown on the 'politics thread'!!!

Hardly surprising....he’s probably been made to look a fool yet again.

 

[Staines R's]

Absolutely right to keep an eye on the symptoms of prostate problems, although nearly all men end up with an enlarged prostate and many die with and not of prostate cancer.
I've had prostate problems for around 20 years now and have what they call prostatitis. This is an enflamed prostate, not enlarged.
I've lost count of the different examinations I've had and the prostate has always been normal in size and smooth (thus far).
It's when it's rough that there may be a problem.
My problem is that I have some of the symptoms of prostate cancer but have prostatitis.
There's no proof that prostatitis leads to prostate cancer, but of course cancer could develop alongside it and I'd think nothing had changed, unless there's blood or something else I've not had before.
Sorry, didn't mean to go into my medical history.
The point I was going to make is that the PSA test is not always reliable.
It can come back a little raised but not mean you have cancer.
This can result in a worrying time for no reason.
I'm due a test as it absolutely makes sense for me to take one with the symptoms I have from prostatitis.

As I put in answer to Stans post, you are completely correct and should be used as an indicator not a certainty.

 

[Staines R's]

I'd echo that. I've had 2 different types of cancer in the last 4 years and the second was quite scary as it suddenly appeared some six weeks after the all- clear from my CT scans for the first. First noticed pain in my back over the left kidney which woke me at night. After a couple of weeks I went to a local drop in centre where they found minute traces of blood in my urine. Within a further 3 weeks I had been scanned and all the lymph nodes either side of my spine had all blown up It went as rapidly as it came after three cycles of chemo but they carried on to complete the treatment with the final three. All good now and fingers crossed, my consultant is reasonably optimistic that I have had a cure and am not merely in remission. However I'm not taking anything for granted and will certainly never ignore any persistent aches and pains again.

All that best mate, makes me realise (as if I didn’t know already) how lucky I am.
Take care