I always try to have a well stocked beer fridge I'm drinking it faster than I can replace it Luckily I have loads of it and I will get some more on the way home from work later When We get back to normal I am definitely going to need to change parts of my lifestyle Maybe
There are so many “ah, but”s. I read the text that went to with this graph and thought it misleading. It talks about statistically significant increases in deaths of over-65s compared with the dotted red line, as well as the same in a number of regions. Whilst it also speaks of the delay in getting mortality data, the black line doesn’t appear significantly ‘spiky’ compared with earlier years in its journey. Is that a correct reading of the data presented?
I don’t know, I’m not a statistician. It’s clearly not designed for laymen to understand, I don’t even get the scale on the x axis.
Thank you for the reply. Your herd comments are correct and I still believe that was the best way to go. As quoted today there is no proof that the lockdown will attribute to more deaths than the virus, that is just speculation at this point. I am sure in future there will be some information regarding future deaths. Today 2 medical experts that have been on TV were asked the question about going out and both said you cannot guarantee you won’t catch it even with all the precautions. So I can’t agree with your comments about going out however I’m sure you will have a couple agreeing.
Spurs have reversed their decision to furlough their non-playing staff, apparently it was only after they had pulled the third of Daniel Levy's fingernails out that he agreed...
Truly criminal.....they should start giving it out for free if it's going to waste Coronavirus: What's happening to the beer left in pubs? By Justin ParkinsonBBC News 7 hours ago please log in to view this image Image copyrightREUTERS Pubs, like other public venues, look set to stay shut for the foreseeable future. But what's going to happen to the contents of their cellars? Fifty million pints - give or take. That's the amount of beer expected to go unused in barrels if pubs remain closed into the summer because of coronavirus. Publicans are currently unable to sell their lagers, ales and ciders - save for takeaways and home deliveries. "It's a very sad waste of all the work and talent that goes into producing great beer," says Tom Stainer, chief executive of the Campaign for Real Ale (Camra). "People won't get to drink it and all those resources have been used up for nothing." Mr Stainer estimates the UK's 39,000 pubs have, on average, 15 barrels in their cellar at any given time. Most are kegs containing 11 gallons (88 pints) each - although many real ales come in nine-gallon (72-pint) casks. The best-before dates on pasteurised beer - including most lagers - are usually three to four months after delivery. Those for real ales and other unpasteurised beer are usually set at six to nine weeks. please log in to view this image Image copyrightKERIS AND LEE Image captionCan't do takeaways - Keris De Villiers and husband Lee So most stock could go to waste if social distancing measures remain in place for several months. Keris De Villiers, landlady of the Ram Inn, the Old Sergeant and the Pig and Whistle in Wandsworth, south-west London, says barrelled beer worth about £10,000 could go off in her cellars - while 1,000 litres (1,760 pints) more beer remains in vats at the SlyBeast microbrewery she and husband Lee have recently set up. "We could do takeaways," she says, "but that would mean selling beer on the corner of a very small pavement. That wouldn't be socially responsible, with the need for people to keep their distance from one another. The whole situation is heart-breaking. "Our brewer literally talks to his tanks when he's at work every day. People really care about the beer they're making. It's a craft and people are passionate about it." Supermarket alcohol sales increased by more than a fifth last month as pubs - along with cafes and restaurants - closed on 20 March. "People are missing these things in their lives," says Mr Stainer. "It's not the biggest issue that the country is dealing with, but aspects of life like going to the cinema or cafe, or going for a pint, are something we treasure." Many breweries and distributors have offered to take back barrels at no charge once the lockdown is over, taking some of the financial pressure off landlords. please log in to view this image Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES Image captionSome pubs are offering takeaways to prevent beer being wasted Iain Crockett, director of Gloucestershire-based Severn Brewing, says draymen - people who deliver beer - face the "worst week of their lives" when the pub trade returns, having to lift full barrels - rather than empties - out of cellars. He wants there to be at least a couple of weeks' notice before pubs are allowed to reopen. "All the little brewers are going to be completely shafted otherwise," Mr Crockett says. While the big brewers have large storage capacities, small operators will be starting more "from scratch", he adds. Before that, though, there's the question of how to get rid of tens of millions of pints. Can we expect scenes like those following the introduction of Prohibition in the US a century ago, where bottles and barrels were smashed, their contents poured away? Probably not. In the US, bar owners have been told not to tip out-of-date beer down storm drains, because it's illegal and environmentally damaging. Some UK publicans, have, however, already resorted to this. please log in to view this image Image copyrightREUTERS The British Institute of Innkeeping is advising against such action, amid concern it could leave landlords further out of pocket. Under Treasury rules, when publicans get rid of large amounts of spoilt beer, duty doesn't need to be paid on it. Brewery representatives normally oversee this process, but because of social distancing they can't visit premises at the moment. The government has temporarily allowed brewers to appoint publicans to oversee the dumping of beer. But they must keep a proper record of it, including perhaps filming a video as proof it's been destroyed, rather than put aside for profit. One option that publicans and brewers who spoke to the BBC would love to try is converting out-of-date beer into hand sanitiser, by extracting the alcohol. Independent brewer Brewdog is already making hand sanitiser at its Aberdeenshire premises, while the government is giving manufacturers who want to do the same "priority" access to the methylated spirits - or "denatured alcohol" - they need. Despite these difficult times, Mrs De Villiers says pub owners and tenants are doing "all we can" to survive and "assist the community". "The breweries are helping us and they want us to survive," she adds. "Everyone's ready to help everyone else." In an effort to limit the economic damage caused by coronavirus, the government has offered £330bn in loans, £20bn in other aid, a business rates holiday, and grants for retailers and pubs. "Pubs are at the heart of our communities and an important part of local economies," says a spokesman for the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. "We've asked them to temporarily close in order to help protect people and reduce the spread of the virus. But we are also delivering support to help businesses, including pubs, through the coronavirus pandemic."
As the young and the trendy might say... LOL. [Its the week number, so 2019-39 is week 39 of 2019, effectively the end of Q3 (Sept'19)]
So, Professor Whitty admits that the most important mortality figure is "all cause mortality". I haven't heard him say this before, although I haven't listened to all these briefings. If that's his most important figure, then why the hell aren't we being given it every day (accepting that there's a delay in obtaining some data)? I accept that COVID-19 is causing a spike in these figures compared with previous years and/or the average over the past 5 years... but how much of a spike, and is it of sufficient substance to crash the economy? Yes, I know, Stan, the same question again and again and again...
I thought he talked about all cause mortality as an indicator of how well the NHS is coping. If it isn’t coping people will be dying of lots of different things that normally they would be treated for and survive. Bet they wish numbers of deaths had never been mentioned. What they are to trying to achieve is to avoid the catastrophe of the NHS collapsing, which will certainly lead to thousands of avoidable deaths.
If you read the article it says the total number of deaths could reach 50,000 overall, not that 50k we’re going to die yesterday. ****ing Twitter.
