Off Topic Corona virus

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It's more the travel rules that have helped I think. Since 1st Feb we closed down travel by people from China or those who had been to Wuhan, then we stopped travel from Italy, then more generally to anybody not a resident or citizen then everybody that wanted to come here was put into 14 days quarantine and now between states there are similar 14 day quarantine restrictions.

Knowing what we know now we should have shut down travel from the states and closed the ports to cruise ships earlier.
Sounds like you have got it pretty much bang on
 
Sounds like you have got it pretty much bang on
Good management or luck, I have no idea but I have a great deal of sympathy with those in the UK, USA and EU, not dictatorial enough, like China or small enough, like NZ, to get these things done quickly. Still a way to go before victory can be claimed but the next steps are a puzzle. If, and that is a really big IF, we get the virus defeated here how do we work with the rest of the world? Sure the footie can restart, schools, restaurant, bars etc open but how do we trade?
 
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Reports from Italy (backed up by the Germans, South Koreans and the Chinese) are suggesting that a substantial % of cases have NO symptoms at all...

To me that's an entirely feasible claim from what I have seen around me!

Bit confused here Emu - you’re seeing all these people around you who have had the virus although they have had no symptoms?
 
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Good management or luck, I have no idea but I have a great deal of sympathy with those in the UK, USA and EU, not dictatorial enough, like China or small enough, like NZ, to get these things done quickly. Still a way to go before victory can be claimed but the next steps are a puzzle. If, and that is a really big IF, we get the virus defeated here how do we work with the rest of the world? Sure the footie can restart, schools, restaurant, bars etc open but how do we trade?
You may not be able to trade for a while but at least it sounds like you will be able to operate nearly normally within your own country. Realistically, we’ve no idea when it’ll be anyway safe to attend a game of bingo or go shopping without ppe. Finishing football leagues is but a fantasy at this time without some sort of cure. Europe is just too closely connected and heavily populated
 
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You may not be able to trade for a while but at least it sounds like you will be able to operate nearly normally within your own country. Realistically, we’ve no idea when it’ll be anyway safe to attend a game of bingo or go shopping without ppe. Finishing football leagues is but a fantasy at this time without some sort of cure. Europe is just too closely connected and heavily populated
The NRL (Rugby League) has set a date of 28th May for matches to start. It may just be possible behind closed doors if the numbers are still dropping but really not a priority for anybody but I think it would be a good moral boost if they do start, if it is medically safe to do so.

You are right about the available space between people. It is clearly a large factor in being able to limit the spread. On face value Ireland seems to be doing OK as well, possibly for the same sort of reasons, away from Dublin. The other thing we have done here and you are probably able to do in Ireland due to the limited numbers of cases is contact tracing and then isolation of those contacts. When the numbers get into the 10's of thousands this becomes nigh on impossible and I suspect you just have to cross your fingers.
 
I think some of us are trying a bit hard to look like experts on the whole situation, both on here and in the media. There are statements being made which smack of underlying political agendas, which wouldn’t stand too much scrutiny in the cold light of day. This is not a time for scoring points.

Bottom line is that even the scientists producing the data that others try to interpret and present as fact have no idea what’s going on from one day to the next.

I saw a post yesterday which pointed out that in the past week more people have died than in the entire Troubles, and each day now the death toll represents the equivalent of 10 Hillsborough disasters.

Stay home, stay safe, pray you’re one of the lucky ones.
 
The NRL (Rugby League) has set a date of 28th May for matches to start. It may just be possible behind closed doors if the numbers are still dropping but really not a priority for anybody but I think it would be a good moral boost if they do start, if it is medically safe to do so.

You are right about the available space between people. It is clearly a large factor in being able to limit the spread. On face value Ireland seems to be doing OK as well, possibly for the same sort of reasons, away from Dublin. The other thing we have done here and you are probably able to do in Ireland due to the limited numbers of cases is contact tracing and then isolation of those contacts. When the numbers get into the 10's of thousands this becomes nigh on impossible and I suspect you just have to cross your fingers.
About 80% of our cases are Dublin area. You’re correct. Of course half the countries population live or work there so no real surprise. Bulk of uk’s cases in the densely populated London area. Our lot have been huge on the contact tracing from early on. We started at 5.4 infections per positive case. Target was to get below an average of 1 to stop its growth. We just about reached that this week. The idea is if it drops below an average of 1 per case then numbers have to begin to fall hopefully
 
About 80% of our cases are Dublin area. You’re correct. Of course half the countries population live or work there so no real surprise. Bulk of uk’s cases in the densely populated London area. Our lot have been huge on the contact tracing from early on. We started at 5.4 infections per positive case. Target was to get below an average of 1 to stop its growth. We just about reached that this week. The idea is if it drops below an average of 1 per case then numbers have to begin to fall hopefully
We are just below 1 now and you seem to be about there so hopefully a better outlook ahead

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Where did you get those figures Eric. I’d be interested in keeping an eye on that daily as far more meaningful than total cases confirmed etc.
 
Where did you get those figures Eric. I’d be interested in keeping an eye on that daily as far more meaningful than total cases confirmed etc.
This is where I got it from. The site explains how the number is determined but as you said basically above one is bad, below one is good. At the bottom of the page there are the growth factors for several other countries.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-10/coronavirus-data-australia-growth-factor-covid-19/12132478
 
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You certainly appear to know less about using a fcukin' dictionary. Use Google. Try it - it's easy! <doh>

Imagine not knowing what a jotter is!
I was joking you dimwit, if you had a sense of humour it might not have gone straight over your head. It's a note pad in my part of England. <doh>
You really thought I thought it was a Scottish otter <laugh>
 
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My dad hasn't been well over the last few days. He went downhill last night and my mum had to call an ambulance.

The paramedics told him he has the conoravirus.

They've checked him over, and for an 83yo, he is in remarkable health, and didn't need to go in the ambulance.

His only symtoms very feeling sick, and a slight temperature.

The ambulance driver said that coronavrus was 'absolutely everywhere'
 
My dad hasn't been well over the last few days. He went downhill last night and my mum had to call an ambulance.

The paramedics told him he has the conoravirus.

They've checked him over, and for an 83yo, he is in remarkable health, and didn't need to go in the ambulance.

His only symtoms very feeling sick, and a slight temperature.

The ambulance driver said that coronavrus was 'absolutely everywhere'
That’s great that he didn’t have to go to hospital and is so strong <ok>
 
Bit confused here Emu - you’re seeing all these people around you who have had the virus although they have had no symptoms?

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Yeah, I can see how that looks. The point I am trying to get across is that I work in a team who work and handle components all together. Some have had all symptoms and been pretty sick with it, others have had what I would say are cold symptoms and the majority have had no symptoms. None have been tested so are not part of the statistics.

If it was covid19 I would say it is highly likely we were all exposed to it.

The lack of testing is the real let down. For all I know it could have been a seasonal bug. The poor fellas who got it bad were very ill for a week. Others just a bit of aches and pains in the chest. The rest nothing!

I'm just hopeful that most have had it, shown no symptoms, and are now immune. The testing elsewhere suggests this might just be the case.

Sorry if my ramblings were a little muddled.<cheers>
 
My dad hasn't been well over the last few days. He went downhill last night and my mum had to call an ambulance.

The paramedics told him he has the conoravirus.

They've checked him over, and for an 83yo, he is in remarkable health, and didn't need to go in the ambulance.

His only symtoms very feeling sick, and a slight temperature.

The ambulance driver said that coronavrus was 'absolutely everywhere'
Glad to hear he is battling it Elland. Yes I believe the virus is everywhere too. I had a strange cough in February that used to be worse lying down at night. Came back from lanzarote on 19th March and shut myself away cos I felt crap. Looks like many have had it but different symptoms. Did I have it? I just don't know.
 
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