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[Sucky]

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This, posted before that CL game is probably the most prophetic thing @astro has ever said...

Tbf he says that before every game, like me and 7-1

 

[Tel (they/them)]

Astro

He’s basically Matthew but actually responds to people’s comments and gets less personal than the Welsh creep.

He’s a typical autistic fanboy though, and a massive ****.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Are they though?
The definition of support is:
"give assistance to, especially financially; enable to function or act".

So you can only be classed as a supporter if:
1. You buy a ticket and go to a game (be that season ticket, individual game whatever)
2. You buy the merchandise (and it has to be genuine - not the 2quid Liverpool shirts I can buy here)
3. You subscribe to the clubs TV channel

Otherwise you are just a fan, along with the millions around the world, who don't or can't actually support their team, by attending games.

And subscribing to Sky Sports doesn't count as supporting your team, even though that income is the main source of the clubs revenue, for the simple reason that it also supports all the rival clubs in the league.

That's always been the differentiator betwwen a 'supporter' and a 'fan' ..

 

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[Peej]

Fortunately, those who actually matter don’t share the view of our resident Kopite plassie when it comes to matchgoers.

Here’s a copy of the email I’ve just had from the CEO of Everton.



I wanted to get in touch with you again as we prepare for a very different Easter weekend for us all.

Under normal circumstances, Easter is not only a time to be together with family and friends but an opportunity to enjoy football - and Everton - as part of our football family.

Over the years Easter has produced some great memories for us.

Who of a certain age can forget Wayne Clarke’s Easter Monday hat-trick against Newcastle United which moved us closer to our ninth league title in 1987?

Or Easter Sunday only last year when the sun shone on us at our beloved Goodison Park as we recorded our biggest win over Manchester United in the Premier League era with a 4-0 victory.

Before the coronavirus crisis, we would have been looking forward to this weekend and hoping Carlo and the players could create another special Easter memory by continuing our charge towards a European place with a positive result at Tottenham Hotspur’s splendid new home.

Such thoughts have become secondary as we have all had to accept the new reality of self-isolation and social distancing to protect ourselves, our loved ones and the NHS in order to save lives.

I have been moved by the many stories I have heard during this crisis of Evertonians displaying genuine care for others less fortunate than themselves in our community.

Everyone at Everton and Everton in the Community has been humbled by the countless kind offers from our fans to support our Blue Family campaign - and for the donations we have received which have gone directly towards helping those most in need.

Hundreds of fans donated to the campaign within hours of us launching Blue Family last month and this, together with the Club’s initial pledge of more than £50,000, has allowed us to help thousands of people.

Many of those we’ve assisted have needed emergency support – literally to be able to eat and to live.

To those supporters who have contributed, I cannot thank you enough. And to those supporters currently working in the NHS and other key worker roles, I would like to praise you again - on behalf of the Board of Directors and every Evertonian - for the great work you are doing for the nation in our time of need.

Additionally, I would like to express my immeasurable gratitude for the tireless efforts of my colleagues at Everton and Everton in the Community.

Their endeavour and work is enabling us to live up to our hard-earned reputation as ‘The People’s Club’, delivering on our deeply embedded Nil Satis Nisi Optimum values during these most challenging of times.

I know you will be wondering when football will be played again – and the impact, the timing and nature of our game’s resumption might have on your match tickets or Season Tickets.

With so much still unclear, I am currently unable to provide any update on this.

But I assure you that if games do not go ahead or matches are played behind closed doors, the Club will do the right thing in terms of refunds – just as we have tried to make the right decisions by paying our directly engaged matchday and non-matchday casual staff, extending our Season Ticket renewal deadline and introducing a payment holiday option.

We will continue to supply engaging Everton content for you over the weekend through our online channels. Don't miss our latest classic game watchback and an exclusive interview with our manager Carlo Ancelotti in the coming days.

Finally, please continue to follow the Government’s advice. Only go outside for shopping or exercise – or work if you are a key worker. Keep washing your hands and remain at least two metres apart from those outside your household.

And please also remember during these long, challenging days that this will pass.

We will be back at Goodison again.

We can look forward to meeting up with old friends and hearing that siren and the famous drum roll of Z-cars before we cheer on our Everton again… I’m getting goosebumps as I write this, so cannot imagine how emotional we will all feel when that time comes around again!

May I wish you and your family a happy Easter.

Warmest wishes,

Denise

and some sections of our support question what she brings to the table!

once confirmed we wouldn’t be putting staff on Furlough I have had nothing but glowing respect for what our club has done to support the community that allowed it to grow to what it is now.

 

[FosseFilberto]

I've got Sucky on selective mental ignore ... a function that allows me to ignore most of his utter bollocks

 

[gooner4ever]

I've got Sucky on selective mental ignore ... a function that allows me to ignore most of his utter bollocks

tbf Sucky is funny and I like him, Astro does seem very intense

 

[FosseFilberto]

and some sections of our support question what she brings to the table!

once confirmed we wouldn’t be putting staff on Furlough I have had nothing but glowing respect for what our club has done to support the community that allowed it to grow to what it is now.

We've confirmed no furloughing of employees and have set up club wide support systems for University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust, Leicestershire Partnership NHS Trust and Age UK Leicestershire & Rutland.

Our young Chairman appears to be a chip off his father's block ... there is already a wing of Leicester Royal Infirmary named after the old man who donated £2 million of his own money towards the state of the art premature babies unit.

Not surprisingly the people of Leicestershire have genuine respect and love for the family that not only delivered a sporting 'wildest dream' but have taken the people of their adopted UK city to heart.

 

[PINKIE]

tbf Sucky is funny and I like him, Astro does seem very intense

Yeah Sucky is sound. And what's more he gives zero ****s about what anybody thinks of him on here. Always bats it off with a laugh too.

That makes him a good un in my opinion. Apart from the fact that he's a wrong un' of course.

 

[Peej]

We've confirmed no furoughing of employees and have set up club wide support systems for University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust, Leicestershire Partnership NHS Trust and Age UK Leicestershire & Rutland.

Our young Chairman appears to be a chip off his father's block ... there is already a wing of Leicester Royal Infirmary named after the old man who donated £2 million of his own money towards the state of the art premature babies unit.

Not surprisingly the people of Leicestershire have genuine respect and love for the family that not only delivered a sporting 'wildest dream' but have taken the people of their adopted UK city to heart.

Did read the stuff Leicester are doing also. It’s about community. As football clubs at all levels should, because if they are not linked to it, they become no more than a franchise who value the people overseas more than on the doorstep.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Yeah Sucky is sound. And what's more he gives zero ****s about what anybody thinks of him on here. Always bats it off with a laugh too.

That makes him a good un in my opinion. Apart from the fact that he's a wrong un' of course.

Sucky's a piss flap ... but he's our piss flap

 

[astro]

Are they though?
The definition of support is:
"give assistance to, especially financially; enable to function or act".

So you can only be classed as a supporter if:
1. You buy a ticket and go to a game (be that season ticket, individual game whatever)
2. You buy the merchandise (and it has to be genuine - not the 2quid Liverpool shirts I can buy here)
3. You subscribe to the clubs TV channel

Otherwise you are just a fan, along with the millions around the world, who don't or can't actually support their team, by attending games.

And subscribing to Sky Sports doesn't count as supporting your team, even though that income is the main source of the clubs revenue, for the simple reason that it also supports all the rival clubs in the league.

I do 2 and 3.

But non-paying fans do also contribute in terms of the money generated from sponsorship deals. That's why clubs care so much about getting good estimates of their worldwide fanbase in the first place.

 

[astro]

Virtually every PL team could make every seat in the ground season ticket only and still sell out, the only reason they don't is to give others a chance of actually seeing a game live so yes, you are right (almost), attendance profits are almost irrelevant, they probably pay the wages of 3 or 4 top players per home game.
That said, it is also the reason BT/Sky make millions off football even after the fees they pay to air it. People want to watch football and will always pay for the experience and excitement. Play in an empty stadium and all of that dies, it's like watching an U18s training match where even the players don't look to have any passion or interest.

I didn't say the crowd is irrelevant, I said financially irrelevant. The original point was that those who go the game should appreciate they are already in a priviledged position compared to the majority of their team's fans so missing 4/5 games because a pandemic forces the league to be finished behind closed doors shouldn't be a big deal.

The crowd has a major impact but I disagree that the passion will be missing from the players. Everyone knows it's only temporarily behind closed doors because of the crisis. Tobes claims it will destroy home advantage, well Liverpool currently has one of the best home records in history but I back our players to remember the fans and still play to their ability.

 

[Stan]

I didn't say the crowd is irrelevant, I said financially irrelevant. The original point was that those who go the game should appreciate they are already in a priviledged position compared to the majority of their team's fans so missing 4/5 games because a pandemic forces the league to be finished behind closed doors shouldn't be a big deal.

The crowd has a major impact but I disagree that the passion will be missing. Everyone knows it's only temporarily behind closed doors because of the crisis. Tobes claims it will destroy home advantage, well Liverpool currently has one of the best home records in history but I back our players to remember the fans and still play to their ability.

The figures you posted suggest Everton’s season ticket holders account for 13% of revenue. It’s arguably the clubs most reliable and consistent revenue stream as they are the most loyal and committed fans. I don’t think any club would consider their season ticket holders to be financially irrelevant. The fact that you do is yet another example of how you are completely out of touch with what it means to be a football fan. Absolutely guaranteed that a club would look at you and look at a season ticket holder and make a lightning quick judgement on which one is financially irrelevant.

 

[gooner4ever]

The figures you posted suggest Everton’s season ticket holders account for 13% of revenue. It’s arguably the clubs most reliable and consistent revenue stream as they are the most loyal and committed fans. I don’t think any club would consider their season ticket holders to be financially irrelevant. The fact that you do is yet another example of how you are completely out of touch with what it means to be a football fan. Absolutely guaranteed that a club would look at you and look at a season ticket holder and make a lightning quick judgement on which one is financially irrelevant.

I am trying to understand how Astro actually “invests” in his club as he doesn’t attend any matches and doesn’t spend any money in official merchandise. By all accounts all he does is sit at home and clap at the tv, so his beloved Liverpool don’t benefit financially from him being a fan.

 

[JakartaToon]

I do 2 and 3.

But non-paying fans do also contribute in terms of the money generated from sponsorship deals. That's why clubs care so much about getting good estimates of their worldwide fanbase in the first place.

Then you can move yourself from fan to true supporter and I apologise for slurring you in that way.

You also have my support now on the season not being cancelled as I will be back in the UK in late May -early June and want to take in some games then!

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[Peej]

The figures you posted suggest Everton’s season ticket holders account for 13% of revenue. It’s arguably the clubs most reliable and consistent revenue stream as they are the most loyal and committed fans. I don’t think any club would consider their season ticket holders to be financially irrelevant. The fact that you do is yet another example of how you are completely out of touch with what it means to be a football fan. Absolutely guaranteed that a club would look at you and look at a season ticket holder and make a lightning quick judgement on which one is financially irrelevant.

Everton could easily go 100% ST like many PL clubs.

the money fans bring to the club and local economy is something that he doesn’t understand.

but he thought furlough was bad, then good then back to being bad.

 

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You’re relentless

 

[Welshie]

You’re relentless

If I'm right, and of course I may not be, Archers works for the rails and once worked for Royal Mail. Not to mention he's got that hippy musician vibe going on, so you won't find a more died in the wool red man on this site. '

I wouldn't surprise me if he lights candles around his Stalin portrait before he goes to bed every night.

 

[Archers Road]

If I'm right, and of course I may not be, Archers works for the rails and once worked for Royal Mail. Not to mention he's got that hippy musician vibe going on, so you won't find a more died in the wool red man on this site. '

I wouldn't surprise me if he lights candles around his Stalin portrait before he goes to bed every night.

Definitely not a Stalinist. A Socialist and a Trade Unionist, but a very liberal (note the small 'l') one.

If there is one thing I think this government has got right so far, it's their reliance on persuasion rather then coercion when it comes to directing public behaviour. If there's one thing they absolutely must take the blame for, it's the indisputable fact that 10 years of Tory austerity has weakened the capacity of the NHS and what's left of the welfare state to cope with a crisis of this kind.