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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    They don’t update the numbers in critical care or how many people have actually recovered, so the layman can have no idea of trends etc. I also note that they don’t say ‘died of coronavirus’ they say ‘tested positive for coronavirus’ for deaths in hospital which is a very different thing.
     
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    On a nicer note, I have removed that stupid predictive spellchecker that has caused me nothing but problems. Hopefully, I will be able to write a post without it replacing words. :)
     
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  3. sb_73

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    I can see this. If the government gave a deadline to loosen restrictions within the foreseeable future I suspect people would do their best to stick with it. But, after less than two weeks, it seems like we could be stuck in a kind of limbo for ages, with weak and vague leadership (not saying leadership by anyone else would necessarily be better).
     
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    I'm in a really precarious position. With funds ever decreasing I actually need to go back to work. I cant be guaranteed that the government will grant me anything come June as the construction industry is still open as usual. I cant actually wait that long anyway. I risk myself and my family by doing this and its something I really dont want to do BUT I dont have a choice. Many I know need money now and are capable of earning it so they are going back next week in their droves. This pandemic will not peak this week or next week as i believe people will be acting like this up and down the country. This is going to go on for a long time yet and numbers will keep increasing due to people being put in impossible positions.
     
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    mmm it's been 163 in critical care for some time now? Although we have been told we are some way off capacity which is encouraging.
     
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    Given that 680 or whatever died in hospitals yesterday that critical care figure is either not being updated or a sign that they aren’t bothering to ventilate huge numbers of patients. I favour the former reason. Likewise we still only have 135 ‘recovered’ patients, which is bullshit.
     
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  7. Sooperhoop

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    Comedy Gold if it wasn't so serious, still, no one in their right mind would want to go there...

     
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  8. ELLERS

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    The worrying thing SB is that you don't want to be going on ventilators because only a very small percentage comes off. What's worrying is that the new hospital is fitted with loads of them.
     
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    You could be right, Bob. It will be ironic given the lockdown is meant to help the NHS and everyone was clapping the workers last night. If the voluntary lockdown does breakdown, I think we'll be in compulsory French-style restrictions by next week
     
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    It's as if they want the numbers of coronavirus deaths to be high.
     
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    I don't see what else they can say when there are a number of contributory factors. "He died of natural causes and he also had coronavirus" doesn't sound right to me. Of course, if a virus-sufferer fell under a bus, then listing it as a coronavirus death would be contrived
     
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    Yeah it was much busier around my area too today. Not at its usual level, but noticably busier.
     
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    Last I read it was that 50% on ventilators recover, which isn’t enough but not ‘very small’, have you heard something else?

    The clinical lead for NHS Nightingale on the telly. Doubtless a good bloke but far from reassuring on how this place is going to be staffed. Bit of a charnel house in waiting.
     
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    The FT was referring to Patrick Vallance and, in their words, “NHS chiefs”. Nice try though.
     
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    There were 20 in critical care for the 1st week I followed the figures, then it jumped to 163 where it has been ever since. Clearly no updates on those figures. The only ones that really matter are total cases and deaths. Current trajectory is now on course for overtaking Italy...
     
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    Would you explain that? 684 deaths today. 1 is too many if it could have been prevented
     
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    OK. Serious question here. Who is to blame for the failure to anticipate, plan. prepare and get ready for a disaster or a pandemic? We've had enough warnings over the years.
     
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    How many of the 684 would have died within a few weeks anyway? How many of the 684 were possibly caused by other conditions, but the unfortunate victim also tested positive for Coronavirus? Perhaps more pertinently, how many early deaths will be caused by the economic fallout from the lockdown? I'm not convinced that it's worth it.
     
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    Look at any of the posts here from certain Tory supporters and you’ll have your evidence ;)
     
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  20. YorkshireHoopster

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    Ok. Assuming for one moment that you may be right and that the figures have been massaged by inflating them for political convenience what practical steps do you think should have been taken to reduce the spread of the epidemic yet allow everyone to carry on working and socialising as before?
     
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