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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
    24
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Mick O'Toon said:
The social distancing thing wasn't working, publicans and punters taking the piss,no more than 100 allowed indoors but it was like Christmas Eve in some places last night so they shut them which I agree with.As for supplies we are fine because measures were taking months ago in the event of a hard Brexit,we don't look so thick now,do we? <cheers>
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Why would you look thick, you're not the ones who voted to leave.

Yeh I heard that was the reason <laugh>

I heard London nobody's really giving a fck and bars and clubs are still busy. Doubt anyone will give a ****... until it all kicks off.
 
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Stan said:
She had placenta previa, which the docs were worried about as our first kid was premature. When she went into labour and we got to the hospital we were told that there wasn’t an available delivery room. After a discussion about how both mother and daughter were at risk of croaking, they wheeled some poor cow out and wheeled Mrs Stan into a delivery room. It wasn’t much fun. Do you need the name of the hospital and midwife you ridiculous prick?
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St Peters?
 
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Stan said:
She had placenta previa, which the docs were worried about as our first kid was premature. When she went into labour and we got to the hospital we were told that there wasn’t an available delivery room. After a discussion about how both mother and daughter were at risk of croaking, they wheeled some poor cow out and wheeled Mrs Stan into a delivery room. It wasn’t much fun. Do you need the name of the hospital and midwife you ridiculous prick?
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Delivery room is not quite the same as a bed though is it.
 
I think it’s going to depend massively on how we manage the spread as to whether we have the capacity to avoid deaths because of issues with beds and ICU places.

Unfortunately there’s a lot of people who will ignore advice or just can’t afford to follow isolation rules.

It’s also going to be difficult for the government o make the decisions about when we introduce what measures to best balance the effects on the economy and the need to reduce the amount of cases we deal with at any one time.
 
Commachio said:
So Guilford not Chertsey?
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He was Guildford, she was Chertsey. Because of her issues with the 2nd pregnancy we were told we needed a hospital closer to home so it had to be St Peters which is massively underfunded and overworked.
 
Stan said:
He was Guildford, she was Chertsey. Because of her issues with the 2nd pregnancy we were told we needed a hospital closer to home so it had to be St Peters which is massively underfunded and overworked.
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My son was born in St Peters Chertsey.
 
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Diego said:
Do you know anyone personally who never got a needed bed in a hospital?

It happens and can be said shouldn't but it is very rare which is why it makes headline news and you read it.
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In the last 12 months....

My 74yr old mum who needs a hernia operation because her hernia has expanded and her stomach now regularly moves fully inside her chest causing intense pain and breathing difficulties. It isn't an emergency but causes intense pain and discomfort when it happens. She was told the waiting list is approx 6 months because they have limited beds for non life-threatening operations. As this operation hasn't happened yet I expect the waiting list will now be much longer, but she would be the first to agree that she should wait longer now as people are dying and their need is greater. If more beds had been available this would have been dealt with already during the five months since it first happened.

My 83yr old Aunty who was discharged from hospital after 2 nights after falling ill with severe dehydration after forgetting to drink. She was waiting on an alzheimers assessment result and the hospital staff knew she was a risk to herself if returned home. The ward nurses begged for her to be allowed to stay but were overruled by higher ups as the bed was needed for someone else. Her daughter was called three hours after she was discharged to let her know her mum had been returned home. By the time she drove to her house she found my aunty eating a cold chicken ready meal she had forgotten to cook. Despite having regular contact with the family there were no warning signs that she was anything other than occasionally a bit forgetful as the onset came extremely quickly. She is now in a wonderful care home but this shouldn't have happened.

It is far from very rare.
 
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Diego said:
Do you know anyone personally who never got a needed bed in a hospital?

It happens and can be said shouldn't but it is very rare which is why it makes headline news and you read it.
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That's a limited observation, you're looking at the front end without considering the knock on effect. In order to scrape by in terms of providing beds, many planned, non-urgent operations over set periods are cancelled or postponed to help hospitals cope. Hospitals do this in order to keep enough beds open for patients who need to be admitted in emergencies or as a result of expected demand such as during winter.
 
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Stan said:
Did you see any female prisoners chained to prison officers? St Peters is lucky enough to be in the catchment area of a couple of prisons.
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No.. But i saw the lad die outside last year, when i thought he was pissed, but had been stabbed multiple times.

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Some really bad numbers coming out of Italy .
Theres not much doubt that the world will be a very different place in 2 years time !
 
Treble said:
That's a limited observation, you're looking at the front end without considering the knock on effect. In order to scrape by in terms of providing beds, many planned, non-urgent operations over set periods are cancelled or postponed to help hospitals cope. Hospitals do this in order to keep enough beds open for patients who need to be admitted in emergencies or as a result of expected demand such as during winter.
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I know that mate, i have family and many friends who work in the NHS. How many beds (complete with staff) do you think we should have idle just in case at any one time?
 
Diego said:
I know that mate, i have family and many friends who work in the NHS. How many beds (complete with staff) do you think we should have idle just in case at any one time?
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How many beds have been idle in the past?
 
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