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Off Topic Nissan investing £400 million in Sunderland plant!

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Owld Feller, Mar 7, 2020.

  1. Owld Feller

    Owld Feller Well-Known Member

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    You quite clearly didn't read the official Nissan statement from only a few weeks ago, concerning their updated UK strategy, so are happy to continue pouring cold water on the hopes of Nissan employees.

    Why?

    I just don't understand why someone would want to do that!
     
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    You quite clearly didn't read the post that you quote, as I did not mention Nissan at all. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  3. Owld Feller

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    Given that you posted it on the Nissan thread I think it was a reasonable assumption that it related to their cars - not Gregg's sausage rolls.
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    That would be to our benefit, surely? Same trading terms but with the added benefit of setting our own deals up right around the world and not having to incorporate the EU’s bullshit regulations into them.
     
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    Which bullshit regulations are those then? Most regulations are there to protect the rights of citizens. European Working Time Directive, Data Protection, The right to be forgotten, Driving licence directive, Clean Water regulations, reciprocal health care etc all intended to improve the quality of our lives. Please give some examples of the regulations that you imply have a negative impact on British citizens lives.
     
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  6. Owld Feller

    Owld Feller Well-Known Member

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    Some people still cannot accept the result of the referendum, four years after the event!

    Maybe, they should just apply for citizenship of an EU country and leave the rest of us in peace!

    Surely for those that don't believe in democracy it's the best solution for them - leave a democracy and move to a non democratic, bureaucratic state.

    Then they can wrap themselves in the EU flag and cry (like the BGBs that most of them seem to be) as the UK surges ahead of their new home's growth figures.

    I can't see them being missed!
     
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    Most (*not sure about the reciprocal medical care) of these will of course continue though, no doubt there will be some tinkering with the regulations in the future, politicians being what they are.
    I believe that the European Court is the example you are looking for though as far as an EU institution that has a negative impact on our Lives.

    It has taken well over a millennium for our legal system to evolve.
    It incorporates elements of Roman, Saxon, Norse and French customs and has been tailored to the British 'psyche'.
    It has been successfully transplanted, to some degree across most parts of the World, but not Europe where a different system and indeed outlook exists.

    This 'Court's decisions are binding on our own courts underlining that EU regulations are legal 'superior' to those of our own Parliament.
    Drafted by unelected EU Civil Servants, much of it not even needing to be rubber stamped by the so called EU Parliament, I find the set up to go against my heritage.
    This part of the EU was never mentioned as a possibility when we joined the Trade Organisation.

    In my view The UK has no need to take lessons from Europe on Laws or Democracy, and while I have no love for most of our home Politicians, there is the thought that we can throw them out every few years and get a new lot in.
    With the EU, the real rulers are the permanent Officials, and we have no recourse against any misdeed that they MAY commit.

    So, much as I accept the logic of your annoyingly well put question, my response is something like,
    Would you trade your heritage for, perhaps, a slightly higher standard of living?

    My response is NO.
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    How curvy a cucumber should be.

    The EU now prohibits manufacturers of bottled drinking water to label their product with anything that would suggest that consumption would fight dehydration.

    The EU are now putting through a directive to ban anybody driving who has diabetes.

    Basically, everybody could see that they’re a bunch of idiots and that’s why we voted to leave. You’ll be thanking us one day soon.
     
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    So nothing at all then <laugh> I rest my case m'lud.
     
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    See post 26!
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    What case <laugh>

    Don’t cry, mate. I sometimes feel like remainers are gutted that the signs are looking very positive for us right now. Strange behaviour indeed.
     
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    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    My best mate is an accountant living and working in London. Heavily involved with some very big hitters (KPMG and PWC) - I spoke to him before the recent GE and he said that the EU need us far more than we need them! That's also the view of some very large financial firms in the UK. As you said, when 25% of the sales across EU is from the UK, what grounds do the EU have to bully us?

    I can't stand Johnson, but I am certainly glad he's in charge as he has got done what the majority of the people asked for. Something Cameron and May couldn't and something that Corbyn and the Lib Dems would have simply ignored.

    This is all opinion by the way based on what I know from people I know (other than the Corbyn bit - that is just basically factual as the bloke is ****ing useless!!)
     
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    ??????? REALLY!! **** man - thank **** we're out of that
     
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    It’s been like that since 2011 <whistle>

    They said they were going to change but they’ve not actually done it. Keep your head down until we leave fully :bandit:


    In 2011, an EU Directive stated that drivers who suffered very low blood glucose levels at night, on more than one occasion in a 12-month period, must hand over their driving licence.
    However, European driving and diabetes experts reviewed the rules last year and voted overwhelmingly for amendments to be made.
    The European Commission will now ask the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) to overturn its ban on drivers with diabetes by January 2018.

    Leading charity Diabetes UK said it has been campaigning for five years for the rules to be changed as many people lost their licence “unnecessarily”.
    One of these cases was highlighted in 2015 when Helen Nicholds, a nurse with type 1 diabetes, won her license back from the DVLA.
    Nicholds previously had her license revoked after she informed the DVLA of two severe hypos she suffered whilst in a deep sleep in June 2014. Helen set up a petition to overturn the decisio, which reached Prime Minister David Camero, and was eventually back behind the wheel.
    The current guidelines do not differentiate between daytime and night-time episodes of severe hypoglycemia, and the DVLA has been asked to make the necessary legislative changes by January 2018.
    The changes have not yet been introduced so drivers with diabetes should continue to comply with the law. These means people with diabetes must inform the DVLA if they experience one or more episodes of severe hypoglycemia, including when asleep, within a 12-month period, and of any changes to their condition that may affect their ability to drive.
     
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    I don't think that's true at all. I voted to remain but we're leaving now and that's that. All I see are leavers saying 'I told you so'.

    The whole thing was so polarising that it did the country as whole no good whatsoever, causing deep rifts between people over something that the majority didn't originally have strong feelings about one way or the other. Now that it's all going through, we should stop the gloating/recriminations and get on with building a successful UK that isn't part of the EU.
     
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    Some do act like it's that way and that they "didn't vote to leave" so they argue they should be allowed to stay - my parents are a prime example. Not sure if they expect us to split the UK in 2 with one slightly larger half belonging to leavers and the rest to leavers!!
     
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    I still get emails from some remain group around here banging on about it. I just delete them so I don't know what they want to do now. While the signs currently are encouraging, I can't help but wonder if there will be complications further down the line. Having said that, I just feel like it's time to get on with it now, no matter what side of the fence you fall on. I thought the referendum was quite damaging to the country, in terms of the arguing and ill feeling it caused, and that we would have been better off without it. Now we have a result, we need to stop bringing up those arguments again.
     
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  18. Owld Feller

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    Please read again.

    This is the text you say you don't think is true.

    Some people still cannot accept the result of the referendum, four years after the event!

    What isn't true about that?
     
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  19. The Norton Cat

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    No one I know who voted remain is still going on about it! (apart, of course, from the emails I've been getting)

    Its only the leavers who are massively keen to hype up things that suggest it's going to be ok. In an 'I told you so' manner.
     
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    I am not crying what's done is done. What I object to is people regurgitating bullshit. As for the driving ban it does not exist yet, and if somebody is experiencing blackouts on a regular basis do you really want them driving a car? Euromyths Screenshot_20200310-125827.png
     
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