Off Topic Coronavirus

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The problem with this virus, as opposed to a general flu virus, is that symptoms don't start until some time after a patient becomes infectious and can pass on the virus. And, as I understand it, some that have the virus don't show any real symptoms but just spread it to others.

Surrey has just had its first case of the virus. The authorities have no clue where the patient got it. Somewhere out there in the leafy lanes, there's an innocent superspreader
 
I take it you won't be staying in bed doing two weeks of self quarantine
Everyone always says they need a holiday when they finish a holiday
Perfect
I was wondering if i could do some self quarantine in a pub somewhere, preferably with free access to all the beers :emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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One of the problems with self quarantine - or even imposed quarantine, is that if people have the sniffles, or have been in contact with a known spreader then they may be reluctant to go for testing because it could end up with 2 weeks quarantine. For anyone who is self employed or freelance this represents a significant loss in earnings - they should be rewarding those that go into quarantine, not punishing them.
 
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We need to find a balance Finglas. There appear to be 2 extremes circulating - the one which says we are on the edge of armageddon, and the other which says 'just ignore it, it's no worse than the flu'. For those on here who are old enough ie. anyone who went to school in the 1960's, or was born in the 50's - we can all remember the polio vaccine being given to us on a sugar lump at school - there were many other things around in those days - Rubella, measles, mumps, and a lot worse (Tuberculosis had not been completely eradicated). That was the first generation of mass innoculations (we felt like pin cushions growing up !) and it was not unusual for whole towns, or parts of them, to be in isolation - nore was it unknown for football matches, or large gatherings of people, to be postponed as a result. I think that Blackpool didn't play at home for about 4 months as a result of some outbreak or another (something similar in Coventry). People were, very definitely, alert to the potential dangers - but in a realistic way, and without too much panic. I am well prepared to believe that this is no worse than the flu (most people want to believe that) - but the fact remains that there is no innoculation, and no treatment for the disease itself, and hits some people very badly. There is also the chance of a mutation occuring. The Chinese death rate of around 3% is probably because it broke out in a city of 11 million people where there are a high proportion of people already suffering from respiratory problems - I wouldn't expect the same here.

This is kind of what I've been saying, but some choose to ridicule anyone who doesn't dismiss the thing out of hand.
I've heard two eminent scientists saying almost completely opposite things.
 
This is kind of what I've been saying, but some choose to ridicule anyone who doesn't dismiss the thing out of hand.
I've heard two eminent scientists saying almost completely opposite things.
There is a kind of a ray of light coming out of Germany. There have been 80 cases so far - 60 of those in North Rhine Westphalia (presumably this is partly due to the recent carnival) but nobody has died yet here. The most serious, hospitalized, cases have been those who have contacted the disease in Italy - so there appear to be signs that the strain of the virus is weakening the further it gets from its source.
 
Here's one for you. My Brother was meant to travel with me today for the match in London. Late last night he got a text from his boss saying if he travels to the UK today, that he has to work from home next week due to fears of picking up coronavirus. He works for a local authority. Good example of the over-reaction and panic.
 
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Here's one for you. My Brother was meant to travel with me today for the match in London. Late last night he got a text from his boss saying if he travels to the UK today, that he has to work from home next week due to fears of picking up coronavirus. He works for a local authority. Good example of the over-reaction and panic.

Sounds like a win-win.
 
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It's all a bit sensitive in these parts. My doctor works at Haslemere Health Centre which is currently the centre of attention. One of the first UK Coronavirus victims walked in there last week and infected one of the doctors. A nearby pub has been closed, and the worrying thing is, no one knows how the carrier got infected in the first place. Too close for comfort.
 
It's all a bit sensitive in these parts. My doctor works at Haslemere Health Centre which is currently the centre of attention. One of the first UK Coronavirus victims walked in there last week and infected one of the doctors. A nearby pub has been closed, and the worrying thing is, no one knows how the carrier got infected in the first place. Too close for comfort.

My work regularly takes me into Heathrow, when some of the big flights come in the Arrivals, particularly T3, are difficult to move in and the lifts to the car parks are like sardine cans. It will be very difficult to prevent spreading this whatever they do...
 
I saw this on Facebook and have no idea how accurate it might be, but it's exactly the kind of information that the government is failing to provide.....

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS
Last evening dining out with friends, one of their uncles, who's graduated with a master's degree and who worked in Shenzhen Hospital (Guangdong Province, China) sent him the following notes on Coronavirus for guidance:
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasise enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
SPREAD THE WORD - PLEASE SHARE.
 
I saw this on Facebook and have no idea how accurate it might be, but it's exactly the kind of information that the government is failing to provide.....

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS
Last evening dining out with friends, one of their uncles, who's graduated with a master's degree and who worked in Shenzhen Hospital (Guangdong Province, China) sent him the following notes on Coronavirus for guidance:
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasise enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
SPREAD THE WORD - PLEASE SHARE.

I’m off for a sunbed.
 
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My work regularly takes me into Heathrow, when some of the big flights come in the Arrivals, particularly T3, are difficult to move in and the lifts to the car parks are like sardine cans. It will be very difficult to prevent spreading this whatever they do...

Yes, it has the potential to spread fast.
 
I saw this on Facebook and have no idea how accurate it might be, but it's exactly the kind of information that the government is failing to provide.....

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS
Last evening dining out with friends, one of their uncles, who's graduated with a master's degree and who worked in Shenzhen Hospital (Guangdong Province, China) sent him the following notes on Coronavirus for guidance:
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasise enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
SPREAD THE WORD - PLEASE SHARE.
Just add that stages 3 and 4 happen in less than 15% of people who have symptoms.