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Schmeichel on par with Joe Hart

Discussion in 'Leicester City' started by AKCJ, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I agree, Given is so, so underrated.

    Although I do think that Reina is brilliant. He's the kind of keeper Arsenal need, his distribution is second to none. There are midfielders in the prem who can't pass as well as him.
     
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  2. Blue Prophet

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    Big difference, Giggs played for England Schools as he was in school in Manchester, as he was born in Cardiff he wasn't qualified to play for England Schoolboys.

    We had Schmeichel on loan at Cardiff, a decent keeper with potential but raw when we had him, if you think he is on par with Joe Hart......well he must have improved beyond all recognition compared to when he was with us or Notts County.
     
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  3. Greatness_Since_1884

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    I think you could argue that Kasper has improved and matured since those days. Certainly for us, apart from his stupid red card vs Forest (stupid on behalf of both the ref and Kasper). He certainly has all the qualities of a top keeper. Shot stopping; distribution; he commands his area; handling is very good; communication is excellent. You could argue that Kasper, when playing for you, was still learning his trade (was he 19/20 when playing for you guys?) and has, in his short career, has experienced the highs and lows of a footballers career at City, Cardiff, Notts and Leeds.

    Another thing is that he's never really settled anywhere and he's always been moving from place to place. I think now might just be the 1st time in his career when he's been settled at a club and had the chance to settle. I think he's most certainly maturing now and I think he has the tools to develop into a top, top keeper.

    I don't however think he' better than Hart. I think they're very similar in terms of talent and I can see where Sven is coming from with his comment but what seperates them for me is that Hart has been more consistent with his performances over his career than Kasper and I think its that's consistency (which is important for any footballer let alone a goalkeeper) that has stopped Kasper getting to the same level that Hart is now. Hopefully now he seems he has matured he can find that consistency for us, and it appears he is, and so he can get up to that next level because his talent certainly deserves it.
     
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  4. leicester_ed

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    hart has better reactions. Both organise well etc, but hart simply has the best reflexs.
     
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  5. Jerel Ifil

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    Hart's mental game is far superior.

    Don't underestimate how big a part mindset plays in goalkeeping.

    His technical ability is better too, for what it's worth.
     
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  6. Lesta Gangsta

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    But the Leeds fans said he's s****! Lol!

    Hart isn't over-rated. He's the best English keeper. Which says more about the condition of English goal-keepers than anything.
     
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  7. Jerel Ifil

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    Most Leeds fans said he was average and made several stupid mistakes at Leeds but would do well under Sven's tuition. As far as I can tell, we've been right.
     
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  8. Lesta Gangsta

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    I can assure you they (and you as I remember) were nowhere near as diplomatic as that! Don't tell me you're all going back on your comments because he's doing well? At least have the integrity to stand by your comments, or hold your hands up and admit you were wrong. Don't say now you knew he'd do well! LOL!!!!
     
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  9. Jerel Ifil

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    Alright, alright. That was just what I said. There are still some Leeds fans pining after him though so I don't agree that the consensus is necessarily that he was ****. Now as for him being a scum-supporting little toothy twat... that's another matter altogether!
     
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  10. Lesta Gangsta

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    Well...can't say I was too happy to see him supporting United at the weekend with Daddy, but as long as he plays well for us, I don't care what he does in his private life...so long as it's legal!

    And trust me, "s***" was a direct quote...maybe not from you, but from a number of Leeds fans. As you intimate, thinly-disguised jealous. The fact that you're here to defend those comments and they're not shows you, at least, have some character.
     
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  11. Old Peacock

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    He is a journey man, who is overrated! He will leave you as soon as he gets the chance of a payday (see: Notts County).

    Do not forget that his old man suffered from losing money through loyal service.

    Leeds fans are happier with his replacement, and to be fair Sven prefered Hart when at Man City!
     
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  12. Lesta Gangsta

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    So, like 99% of footballers, he'd leave his current club for a better deal elsewhere. You've really opened my eyes. What a b*******!

    From what I've seen in eight matches so far, he's not overrated.If anything, underrated - he should be in the Prem.

    And I don't know why Leeds fans keep telling us they're "happy with his replacement", like that's some sort of justification for him leaving you. If you're happy with your keeper, and we're very happy with ours, why the continual posts on the same theme? You seem to be assuring yourselves that you're better without him.... but you really know you're just lying to yourselves.
     
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  13. Greatness_Since_1884

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    I think you could argue that he went to Notts County to play football. He wasn't getting a sniff at Man City and he just wanted to play. I doubt his wages would have been significantally raised at League 2 Notts County from Premier League Man City.

    I also think dis-loyal is wide of the mark. He left Man City because he wasn't playing football. He left Notts County because they couldn't afford his wages and Kasper actually fore fitted about £4 million in future earnings when they released him so that shows he isn't a money grabber. He was then pushed out of Leeds against his will. I think the key for Kasper Schmeichel is that he needs to settle at a club which he hasn't done so far for various reasons (many not his fault). Hopefully now he can settle at Leicester and perform like we and you know he can consistently which is a bi-product of stability which is something Kasper hasn't had. I think he's clearly talented but needs to settle somewhere and we at Leicester have taken to him straight away and he's probably been our best signing so far. I also think he knows he needs to settle somewhere so I don't think he'll be in any rush to leave.

    As for Sven prefering Hart, I think he was right to because he's a better keeper.
     
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  14. Old Peacock

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    Fair post fella.

    We were disapointed to see him go, but he only was on a two year deal so I can see why we cashed in.

    No one in Leeds thought Lonergran would do anything special, so a lot of the posts are based on genuine shock that he is so much better.

    I hope he is not a journey man for you, i will miss watching him blame the defence for his mistakes (it was really funny).

    Goodluck for the season.
     
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  15. MarkoLUFC

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    It's less the fact that we're bitter that he's gone and more the fact that many of your fans were looking down their noses at us taking every sly (or rather, not so sly) dig they could manage. The arrogance shown by your fans who totally disregarded our opinions on a keeper we saw playing week in week out was also a factor in the slagging matches. I still think he cost us as many points as he saved us. Lonergan's only fault this season was rectified by saving the penalty that came out of it.
     
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  16. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No, we had seen you raving about him for a year and as soon as he left he was suddenly ****.

    Lonergan may well have played well for you but Kasper has been simply stunning.

    How on earth he isn't playing for a prem club (at 24 years old) is their loss and our gain
     
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  17. FILEYseadog

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    The only way KS is going to play in the premier league is if he leaves LCFC. Basso is doing a good job at Hull and cost us nothing. In my opinion he is better then KS. . Time will tell won't it.
     
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  18. Lesta Gangsta

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    It's easy to mistake arrogance with over-excitement. A lot of fans have been waiting a long time for the day we can pick and choice players from our rivals. Those days are here now, and while I'm sure there was a bit of WUMing going on, it's more from excitement about our future than Lording it up over former footballing powers like yourselves.

    We're a long way from the days when average free players donned the blue and white for nothing whilst we struggled financially, and fans that remember that have every right to rejoice. As AKCJ says, to hail Kasper when he was at Leeds and then call him s*** when he's at Leicester just makes you look rather foolish - it's no way to get back at the WUMs.
     
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  19. MarkoLUFC

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    I only praised him until I'd seen him play a few games. After that he just deteriorated as the season went on.
     
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  20. BigFox

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    If he deteriorates then we will stop praising him too - but he hasn't so: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiXg_70rMeM&ob=av2n

    Couldn't resist ;)
     
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