Off Topic The Politics Thread

Woke, American black slang term, to be aware and awake to racism and injustice, hijacked by the left to defend against everything and everyone they don’t deem to agree with them.
Secondly my opinion of the far right terror attack is exactly the same as a Islamic or jihadi attack in that anybody who kills, maims or injures innocent people should be dealt with in the same way, removed from society swiftly and with maximum use of force, and before you start bleating about human rights, any terrorist, right wing, Islamic, Christian, Left wing etc who kills a human being is nothing more than a wild animal and as such has no human rights, now does that answer your question or are you to dumb to comprehend and understand, and I don’t appreciate your pitiful attempts to label me as far right with your subtle innuendo and continual references to everything far right in an attempt to somehow smear me, so stop jumping on bandwagons to justify your simple mind and grasp of anything you don’t agree with.
So go take your WOKE attitude and do one.

 

Being civil to someone just because they are stupid is a bit condescending don’t you think
After all I don’t want to trigger his insecurities about himself and set him off again on another tirade now , do I

 

who will make my coffee

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Caroline Voaden

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@CarolineVoaden

So Priti,
@patel4witham

Who’ll fill the coronation chicken sandwiches?
Who’ll dig cauliflowers out of freezing muddy Cornish fields?
Who’ll wash the hospital bedpans?
Who’ll clean our offices at night?
Who’ll feed, bathe and care for our most vulnerable?
Asking for a friend...

 

Can you please show where I have called called you or anyone racist without the correct justification? Thanks in advance. Why do you think that the attack in Germany has received a fraction of the attention of other terrorist attacks and why there is so little outrage, think I'm the only one to mention it on here.

 

**** off !!! Happy to be civil but when you get insults to pretty much anything you post eventually you give in and respond in kind

 

look at the bloody camera
Old Holborn ✘

@Holbornlolz

Labour caused austerity by bailing out the banks and funding anything that promoted Socialism.

4M migrants don't use the NHS?

4M migrants don't need housing?

Migrants are not the problem. Richard is the problem.

 

You know that migrants on average give to the economy much more than us Brits right?

 

**** it then
kick all those useless brits out
fill the place with foreigners
make Britain great again

 

big brother is watching you


No joke
Hundreds of Scots who tell ‘offensive jokes’ on social media are being secretly logged on police database

• Ruth Warrander

• 19 Feb 2020, 10:29
• Updated: 19 Feb 2020, 18:17

HUNDREDS of Scots are being secretly placed on a police database - for telling offensive jokes online.

Police Scotland has logged more than 3,300 “hate incidents”, such as sharing offensive jokes on social media, even though they involve no criminality.

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Logged jokes could be handed to potential employersCredit: Getty - Contributor
But comedians and campaigners say it's over-policing the public and a danger to freedom of speech.

Officers currently go by official guidelines which state jokes appearing to be motivated by hostility towards race, religion or a person being transgender are filed “irrespective of whether there is any evidence to identify the hate element”.

And any information logged could appear on disclosure checks and handed to employers if police deem it relevant to a job they are applying for.

The Times reports a freedom of information request showed that 858 of these non-crime incidents were uploaded to Scottish police systems last year - the equivalent of more than two a day.


In England and Wales, almost 120,000 cases were logged by 34 police forces over the same period.

Comedian and former radio presenter Fred MacAulay blasted the practice, branding it "a waste of police time".

He said: “Police Scotland will have a lot a material for their office Christmas party if they’ve got 3,300 jokes stored that are not criminal.

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"There have been things said in the comedy store dressing room between two or three comedians that somebody would take offence at when we’re discussing material and how far the boundaries can be pushed.
“If a normal person says an offensive joke, in the pub or something like that, it’s a waste of police time to record that.”


Meanwhile, Index on Censorship editor-in-chief Rachael Jolley said people were potentially having their basic human rights taken away.

She said: “Speech that breaks no law is being investigated in a way that stifles people’s freedom to express themselves and has the potential to close down debate because of fear of what may end up on their record.




"Human rights include our right to have opinions, and sometimes those may be upsetting to others, but in a free and open and healthy society we must be able to express opinions that others disagree with.”

Hate crime operational guidance also permits officers to “identify a hate incident, even when the victim or others do not”.

Last week a judge ruled that the College of Policing’s official guidelines had been unlawfully used to interfere with a man’s freedom of speech.

Former cop Harry Miller won his legal fight against Humberside police, in East Riding of Yorkshire, after being investigated for allegedly “transphobic” tweets.

He said that an officer turned up at his workplace and said: “I’m here to check your thinking.”


The guidelines admit that cases have been used “as evidence to accuse the police of becoming ‘the thought police’, trying to control what citizens think or believe” and reject that but urge officers “not to overreact”.

Police Scotland chief inspector Coleen Wylie said: “Officers will consider the circumstances around all hate reports, and while not every report will amount to criminality, this enables officers to consider and take preventative [or] protective measures to address any emerging concerns.”

A Police Scotland spokesman added: “An offensive joke may be reported by someone, but not amount to any criminality, so we would log this as a hate incident.”

The force added that an individual’s “repeated behaviour” would also be monitored and reviewed to “check if there is any criminality”.

 

What's your evidence for that?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-productivity-skill-gdp-brexit-a8542841.html

 

That took 2 seconds on google it’s not the only report over the years I’ve seen that backs my point 100%

 

This just says immigrants aid productivity. Can you point out the bit where it says migrants on average give to the economy much more than Brits?

 

Google confirms plans to move UK users’ accounts outside EU jurisdiction
EURACTIV.com with Reuters

Feb 20, 2020 (updated: Feb 20, 2020)

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Google is planning to move its British users’ accounts out of the control of European Union privacy regulators, placing them under US jurisdiction instead, the company confirmed late on Wednesday (19 February).

The shift, prompted by Britain’s exit from the EU, will leave the sensitive personal information of tens of millions with less protection and within easier reach of British law enforcement.

Alphabet Inc’s Google intends to require its British users to acknowledge new terms of service including the new jurisdiction, according to people familiar with the plans.

“Nothing about our services or our approach to privacy will change, including how we collect or process data, and how we respond to law enforcement demands for users’ information,” Google said in an emailed statement. “The protections of the UK GDPR will still apply to these users.”

A spokesman declined to answer questions.

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Google users in UK to lose EU data protection – sources
Google is planning to move its British users’ accounts out of the control of European Union privacy regulators, placing them under U.S. jurisdiction instead, sources said.





Ireland, where Google and other US tech companies have their European headquarters, is staying in the EU, which has one of the world’s most aggressive data protection rules, the General Data Protection Regulation.

Google has decided to move its British users out of Irish jurisdiction because it is unclear whether Britain will follow GDPR or adopt other rules that could affect the handling of user data, the people said.

If British Google users have their data kept in Ireland, it would be more difficult for British authorities to recover it in criminal investigations.

The recent Cloud Act in the United States, however, is expected to make it easier for British authorities to obtain data from US companies. Britain and the United States are also on track to negotiate a broader trade agreement.

Beyond that, the United States has among the weakest privacy protections of any major economy, with no broad law despite years of advocacy by consumer protection groups.

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UK to diverge from EU data protection rules, Johnson confirms
The United Kingdom will seek to diverge from EU data protection rules and establish their own ‘sovereign’ controls in the field, the UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Monday (3 February). His comments came despite the EU affirming that the UK should “fully respect EU data protection rules.





Google has amassed one of the largest stores of information about people on the planet, using the data to tailor services and sell advertising.

Google could also have had British accounts answer to a British subsidiary, but has opted not to, the people said.

Lea Kissner, Google’s former lead for global privacy technology, said she would have been surprised if the company had kept British accounts controlled in an EU country with the United Kingdom no longer a member.

“There’s a bunch of noise about the UK government possibly trading away enough data protection to lose adequacy under GDPR, at which point having them in Google Ireland’s scope sounds super-messy,” Kissner said.

“Never discount the desire of tech companies not be caught in between two different governments.”

In coming months, other US tech companies will have to make similar choices, according to people involved in internal discussions elsewhere.

Facebook, which has a similar set-up to Google, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

 

this further explains how that works.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0809/3-ways-immigration-helps-and-hurts-the-economy.aspx

 

No comments no memes on how Patel is struggling with figures?

https://news.sky.com/story/priti-pa...tive-britons-will-fill-job-vacancies-11937918

 

are all migrants the same
is it based on legal migrants only or does it include people getting out of the backs of trucks or boats fleeing from war torn france

 

Sorry, Will, this does not support what you said. It simply undermines arguments pro-immigration, when unsubstantiated claims are made that immigrants are far more worthwhile than the nationals in Britain. You've way overstated your case.

 

https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/recent-releases/8747673d-3b26-439b-9693-0e250df6dbba

The average UK-based migrant from Europe contributed approximately £2,300 more to UK public finances in 2016/17 than the average UK adult.

 

It probably won't apply to illegal migrants because they don't pay tax. I'm sure a lot of the youngsters that have come here from the EU are keen to work and do well, and do aid productivity. The new immigration system will still take the most qualified of these - the UK will choose what it needs, just as Australia had done. And may be NZ too? You tell me...!