So alternative solutions to FFP? Restrict over-spending to a certain % of your turnover. Just results in the same problem, bigger clubs having more financial clout. Restrict wages to a cap depending on division but allow bonuses to be given depending on successes (trophies, league positions). Means Bournmouth could buy whoever they wanted but have to win **** and fast else Messi is offski to where he'll receive guaranteed success. Would probably just result in other leagues giving higher base wages and the PL's quality drops. Allow overspending but enforce that a % of turnover must go into local infastructure/academy/grassroots. Similar to City, but without the whole, you know, fiddling fraudulant sponsorships. Allow overspending but restrict squads to a lower number of overseas players and enforce that they have a certain number of academy graudates. Means clubs have to buy carefully in the right areas and nurture young, British talent whilst improving their academies. However, might lower the overall quality of the PL for quite some time (I quite like the potential for this idea if used correctly and thought through) Or finally... Let it be open game. Just means those clubs who do things right fall away and the rest of the football league teams are pitched into a lotto of which lucky club gets the next oligarch. Not sure how it solves anything for the overwhelming majority of clubs. Any other ideas? Beacuse I'm just not a fan of what City, Chelsea or PSG have done and I'm not sure what FFP actually achieves.
Anyone read this on the Sky Sports site.... 'Wenger offside proposals ruled out for Euros' http://www.skysports.com/share/11937560 ... I'm particularly talking about this paragraph... ... how the actual **** does it "sort out it" and remove the "millimetre" decisions? All it does is move the offside line ffs I like that it would favour the attacker and potential end in more goals, it just doesn't address the offside issue at all. Pretty sure I spoke to someone (JB?) about this idea recently too
Isn't this exactly what Souness advocated a few months ago? Would be a disaster imo. Defenders left pretty much unable to play offside traps as a finger nail could now be onside which they couldn't possibly account for. Goals would go throug the roof and defenders returning to the drawing boards on how to defend. Like you said too, still doesn't sort out the problem, just moves the problem 50cm away.
I think we did have a discussion although I can't remember the outcome what's new. Having read and reread what Wenger's proposing, I'm not sure it's any different to what we already have. Paraphrasing 'any part of the body that can score must be level or not in front of the defender'. Which means that, as the only parts of the body that can't score, it's okay for arms and hands to be offside. What am I missing?
other way round The former Arsenal manager's proposals would mean a player would be deemed onside if any part of their body is level or behind the last defender.
I wish moreinjuredthanowen is around to witness us winning the premiership title. We can dedicate it to him.
The other way round to what, haven't you just said what I said? Level or behind is onside now. What's the new proposal?
at present you are deemed offside is any part of the body that can score is beyond the last defender assuming GK hasn't gone walkabout where as in the proposed change you would only be deemed if all of your body was beyond the last defender .
Wasn't so much a conversation, more a couple of comments. Think you mentioned Souness suggesting this and I responded with what I've said above; it just moves the line. The difference is, 90% of the latter could be offside so long as one if his feet is still in a onside position. Basically gives the attacker a extra half a yard.
At present, all parts of their body that can play the ball must be on the opposite side of the defender to the goal you're attacking. The new proposal suggests just one body part that can play the ball
I think I've got it now. Just to clarify - can it be any body part that is level with the defender to keep the player onside or does it have to be a body part that can score? Edit : just seen G's reply.
Honestly, all of this millimetre offside business is ridiculous over such an arbitrary rule anyway. I like the suggestion of sticking a sensor in the boots and if it's offside you're offside, and that's it. An alarm goes off and your toe blows up, that'll settle it.
I don't know, I'm not an electronics engineer, but I doubt it would be difficult these days. One of the original goal-line technologies incorporated microchips in the ball - so they could put them in the boots. Greez ( I think) has already suggested this. That part would be easy and then it's down to a software system to sort out who's who. Such decisions would take a second or two. I'm sure someone could work it out. More sophisticated than the current set-up, but more efficient imo. Either that or we could just go back to eyeballing it, and stop trying to turn a sport into a video game.
