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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    A foot offside :emoticon-0136-giggl

    Nice to see Spurs fans sticking up for their fellow Londoners.
    This is Chelsea ya know?
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    Another disallowed goal???
     
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  3. Left on the Shelf

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    Pls see above...
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    ...so yeah, permission to be livid if Dier starts at the weekend?
     
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  5. Citizen Kane.

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    It is but our love for the game is simply greater than our hatred for Chelsea. If any further proof was needed for the likes of @Suckmyklopp that we (Spurs board) are capable of calling out injustices fairly and objectively, it is exactly what you have pointed out: expressing outrage at decisions going against a team we loath in a match we need them to drop points in. Forget rivalries and history, this **** is ruining the game. What's left of it.
     
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  6. SpursDisciple

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    ****ing hell. This game is starting to make me feel sorry for Chelsea. <grr>. Need a shower.
     
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  7. littleDinosaurLuke

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    We don't have this in cricket.
    Technology is used to decide marginal decisions - players and fans accept the decisions and move on.
    Nobody re-evaluates the game on the basis that Kohli wasn't given out on 0 when it was umpire's call and went on to make a 100.
    The mistake football is making is that the technology is being applied in a haphazard way and it is leading to inconsistencies - although that is perhaps inevitable with decisions which are both marginal and subjective.
    The popular view in football is that the referee's incompetence, assisted by the incompetence of VAR, decides games. So we have controversy in every game.
    In other sports - cricket notably - decisions by officials are part of it, but overall factors such as the quality of performances, player errors, the rub of the green, tactical awareness and decision making are more significant factors.
    Chelsea can have no complaints - Utd were the better team.
     
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  8. Citizen Kane.

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    I don't follow cricket.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    I suspect that Frank Lampard might have a few words to say after the game.
     
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  10. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    You should
     
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  11. bigsmithy9

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    No luck for Chelsea today.Why? Their saving it up for Saturday!!!!!?
     
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  12. bigsmithy9

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    I do believe the United win has saved Ole's job for a bit longer!
     
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  13. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    I think its a pretty good guess to say hes there til end of season then poch goes in.
     
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  14. The Changing Man

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    Not many subjective decisions in cricket though Luke, you are either in or out, most decisions are based on a straight line decision much like goal line tech and even offside - but you can't compare any decision in cricket to the decision to not send off Maguire, and whilst you may still have won playing with 10 men for 70 mins it not that likely.
     
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  15. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    True, fair point.
    There are still some - umpire's call re lbw, did the ball carry and did the player release the ball before making contact with the boundary. Even with technology, these decisions are difficult to call.
    It's just that in cricket, the judgement of the officials is respected; it isn't in football.
     
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  16. Billy The Spur

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    It has nothing to do with incompetence or inconsistency, it is down to whichever team is being given the benefit of doubt by the officials on any particular day, or whatever particular agenda the officials have, or just plain old bias. Tonight`s officials will all have seen the Son red card for the kick out at Rudiger, yet Maguire does exactly the same (or worse if you see where he kicks him), and they leave him on the pitch.
     
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    They can and they do.
    Wouldn't argue that Utd were marginally the better side, but as the most crucial wrong decision was to not send off Maguire in the first half, there's little doubt that changed the outcome.
    VAR provided the opportunity to assess an act of 'violent conduct'. Sons literally identical offence was not overturned on appeal which means Maguire should have walked. Not difficult to understand...
     
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  18. BobbyD

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    <laugh>

    I never knew ldl was this biased.

    That disallowed goal was every bit as bad as the maguire decision. Anyway onwards and upwards. Chelsea cant be feeling sorry for themselves its still in our own hands.

    Kante out might mean lamps has to play kovacic now. No idea why he hasnt played much recently when hes been one of our best players
     
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  19. Spurlock

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    <laugh>
     
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  20. Spurlock

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    But it was offside

    Maybe it was just me back in the pre VAR days but if I saw someone score such a goal only for replays to show offside as per the rules state then it would leave me livid.

    The rules are precise and now technology is bringing the precision but people don't want it because they miss moaning like ****s for weeks n weeks at why someone got away with it.

    The rules either need changing to buffer the stupidity of human interpretation or we need new humans but as far as I can see...the technology is exactly what the game needs due to the rules being so precise separated by a thin line.

    It never bothers me, hurts me or any other emotion when VAR calls it right against us. What always gets my back up is bias and inconsistent referees making different decisions for similar incidents because that just makes the whole game pointless. We should just ask the ref at the beginning who he fancies today and just register the result.
     
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