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Rangers v Celtic

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. If in doubt

    If in doubt Well-Known Member

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    At the same time, should you really be so close to Kilmarnock/Aberdeen etc in matches that a "mistake"/tight call deep in the second half changes things so badly? On Wednesday, you had a man up top that you all value at £30m. You had a winger that you paid £7m for and a player on loan that you will all want to buy for £5m. You have a wage bill of £35m. Kilmarnock had a team that cost about £1m to build (if that) and a £3.5m wage bill. The fact that the same results keep occuring against the same (far poorer in monetary and ability) teams is not the refs fault. It's piss poor management from a man happy to take a million plus out the club for himself while spending £20m and 18months later, still making the same mistakes.
     
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  2. EDGE.

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    The data is there in black and white.

    Celtic pressurising referees for decades means they get the run of the green more often than not. Rangers consequently don’t.

    We’ve got countless instances this season where Celtic have benefited from poor decisions. It’s too much to be “win some/lose some”

    The Griffiths stamp is absolutely bizarre refereeing then for a “panel of experts” to agree it wasn’t a stamp is just brazen idiocy at best or corruption at worse.

    Clancy’s performance in the last Old Firm should’ve meant he got relegated to boys football, he get rewarded with the next game at Spazteca where he awards Celtic another win with ****ty decisions.

    The fact that we aren’t calling this out means they continue to get away with it.
     
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  3. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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  4. EDGE.

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    Football is a low scoring game and fine margins have huge consequences on the final result.

    Rangers have been magnificent this season and had we got the run of the green or Celtic been referred to similar standards, we’d have a cup in the bag and sitting top of the league.

    Celtic have the SFA and SPFL in their pockets and have done for decades. We will never win until we call it out.
     
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    You large John on it?
     
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  7. If in doubt

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    The margins shouldn't be that close with the talent you have available. You should be creating 10x the chances per match and finishing at least 2/3 of them. Rangers not getting a couple of freekicks in the middle of the park because Sam Cosgrove is strong and stands his ground is not why our last game was 0-0. It's because bar one freak 5-0 humping, Del has Gerrard's number and can see how he's going to play a month in advance. It's easy to set up against. And yet he keeps trying to play the same way. There's a reason that Celtics run of wins are 3/4/5 nils and Rangers run in the first half of the season included a lot of 1-0s/2-1s late goal wins etc and it's not refs. It's because Gerrard has one way of playing and can't seem to understand that he needs to change things sometimes.

    You're set up a way that has brought you some great wins in Europe/Great win (+game) vs Celtic because you're playing sides that don't sit in and it suits you. But that doesn't work against "****e" that will sit back and unfortunately for Rangers, that's who they have to play 30 games a season. I mean, 2 defensive minded midfielders vs Kilmarnock? Why? Take one out and go two up top. It's Killie you're playing, not Porto.
     
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    The margins shouldn’t have been close? What an idiotic post.

    Celtic v Hamilton at the piggery, Accies score last minute equaliser, from resultant KO, Celtic go long, Accies CB jumps to win header, Thumb pushes him in back, no FK, ball goes wide, BHEAST LB fires cross in, Accies defender heads ball and gets booted in face, no FK, ball breaks to Lego, scores goal, BHEAST wins 2-1.

    Same night, Morelos gets fouled in box, FK awarded instead of penalty. That’s just one instance, I can got to Wednesday, even the Hearts game at Swinecastle where decisions went against us and we lost the game. It’s happening too often to be honest mistakes. It’s happening game after game, season after season and it’s costing our managers their jobs.
     
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    Every fan of every club in World Football sees the bad and thinks they're hard done by. There is no ref conspiracy and it's not the reason you've chucked the league again.
     
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    You are correct but I am more correct.

    And I’ve been bemoaning the standard of refereeing in this country for centuries now but when folk are having tantrums because Killie fluked a win through bad refereeing and are wanting the manager removed then I feel the need to highlight the injustices we’ve been suffering since Newco was formed.
     
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    Ask any fan of a club in Scotland outside the Old firm what they think of refs in Scotland and the majority will answer that for the last 30 years you've both always been favoured and got all the decisions. Referees in Scotland aren't good. Agreed. Referees in Scotland are not targeting just your club.
     
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    I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it was consistent. It’s not though and that’s the issue.

    If Morelos goal is chopped off for a push then he should’ve got a penalty as they were almost identikit in softness.

    Tav runs by McKenzie, he literally jumps on his back and hangs off him, no yellow.

    All this before I scour my dossier on the amount of Rangers players injured and put out for weeks/months through opponents challenges not even adjudged to be a foul never mind a yellow card.

    If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.
     
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    Baz fkn beeling first thing on a Saturday morning <laugh>
    Yer team are pish. Get over it ffs.
     
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    For every sevco injustice every other team can match them and give their own examples. This is truly top quality fizz we are living through.
    What a time to be alive.
     
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    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    Valentines day was yesterday
    **** up Monny
     
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  19. Easter Road 1980

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    The simple truth is that The Ragers are **** and bottle it at every opportunity. Plus they have a manager who takes no responsibility for anything at all, throws his players out to the vultures at every opportunity. Great management.

    Spents loads to be perennial 2nd best. **** 'em. You reap what you saw.

    Still, they are considerate lovers, always coming second. There's always light at the end of the tunnel. Bless.
     
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    Rangers never had a plan for when they came back into premiership

    It was all about 55

    It should have been a 5 year plan ...build a squad etc

    Gerrard is in year 2 of his 5 year plan due to the **** up of Warburton and Pedro ...

    Getting rid now won't make sense but he'll be under pressure without at trophy ...

    No trophy and stop 10iar....next season , the pressure will be unbelievable
     
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